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Durafei
the crazy russian



Registered: Oct 2000
Location: San Francisco, California
So, who is satisfied by their university/college education?

With most of here on the board studying at universities/colleges, I'm just wondering what do you guys think of your program?

Are you satisfied with that you studying? Is it what you hoped for when you got into university/college?

I'm studying Comp. Science at the University of Waterloo. Up to couple of years ago and probably still, it was considered to be the best comp. science program in Canada. Lately, however, Waterloo started accepting way to many people, and as a result quality of courses have deteriorated. Courses have become much easier than before, which will eventually result in reputation of the school falling. I like my program, but I hate how a lot of people in the program get away with getting a degree doing virtually nothing(for instance the hardest and most essential part of the program is doing various projects in CS; however as it turns out
you don't even have to do them(they are only worth like 25-40% of the course) in order to pass the course). I don't really care how other people get their degrees, but where is my motivation to study, when you don't really have to in order to obtain the degree?


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DJ_Lord
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Bella Vista

No!

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StereoPrincess
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Registered: May 2001
Location: SPFRI

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Lord
No!


Why oh why, DJ_Lord??

Me, I'm very happy with what I did in Ottawa and what I'm doing now in Toronto. I actually loved my 4 years at Carleton. It was a great school and great program. My program allowed me to take many different courses and choose my future direction. Now, I'm doing my Masters here at U of T and that is also very satisfying. You get to explore your own interests and directions. If you don't want to leave school I highly recommend going for your Masters and PhD.
As for the school U of T is kind of shitty. Everyone seems distant and there is no real feeling of community like there was at Carleton. Maybe I was just brainwashed during Frosh week but I'm a die hard Carleton supporter.

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dEsidEL
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Registered: Aug 2000
Location: Below the Belt
KarateKid

IT Management @ Ryerson .. 3rd year.

so far it's not worth the time and money .. i haven't learned anything that i'm confident to take with me into the workforce. too many courses are riddled with bullshit. about 25% of the classes are actually applied. i know... someone is gonna suggest the whole 'college' thing. but there's nothing wrong with theory.. i just wish it was useful theory.


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Alccode
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: toronto

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
As for the school U of T is kind of shitty. Everyone seems distant and there is no real feeling of community like there was at Carleton. Maybe I was just brainwashed during Frosh week but I'm a die hard Carleton supporter.


No, your observation is accurate, for the most part. I guess part of the blame is due to the fact that U of T is just so big.

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E*Master
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Etobicoke, Ontario Canada

NEtwork and Computer Tech. @ Slumber Humber.

No for 2 reasons.

1. we have a lot of teachers who are old and are really bitter for some reason. Like when I took Java, I had this teacher she was like 80 and she looked as if she got off on students failing. There are plenty of teachers in my school who look like they have a lot of problems and they let it out inside the classroom.

2. I am not satisfied with my ediucation I recieved in Canada AT ALL! Why? Because in my contry Iwould have gradiated 2 years ago with 1 year of Co-op. I learned nothing in Highschool except for that most teachers don't care, that the attendance lady was a perv, and that guidance councelours did not give one shit.

College, I pay a lot of money for overcrowded labs with other ppl inside who at any chance that u might look like u have to get something out of your bag they right away ask "uhm are you done?", lol. So far I have only learned something that has to do with my studies in one class: Computer HArdware. The other class I loved was Humanities. Other than that I have learned nothing.


No offence to u canadian TAs. It's not your fault I hate the education system here. I just feel like I am being taught to be stupid so I don't open my mouth and stand up. Especially if youa re an immigrant.


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TheDemon
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Dark Sector World!

Humber is a great place. Its considered a university/college institute because of its prestige. Actually its getting BA degrees and now the that the Guelph add-on is coming its getting better. Is my money's worth being at Humber? hell yeah! No point in going to a college if you can't be challenged. I highly reccomend them. For University of course its the UofT. The Demon has Spoke.


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JHN416
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto
8.5/10

Industrial Engineering @ Rye

I'm satisfied with the quality of the program but not with Ryerson in general.

They really squeeze every last penny out of you (including raising tuition fees for the last 3 years) and nothing has improved. The computer labs, the halls, the cafeteria, and the library are a lot more congested this year...I feel really sorry for all those 17 year olds next year.

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mot10n
go home, get down



Registered: Jul 2002
Location: KW

2nd year comp sci @ laurier.

didn't get into waterloo cuz my marks sucked so far, school has sucked assmar. classes are bullshit, only one prof is actually a good teacher, most others have english as a 2nd or 3rd language, and they are really bad at speaking it, so even though they know their shit, it can't be passed on to us correctly. plus the staff association was on strike for 2 months, meaning no labs, tutorials, services such as dropping and adding classes, tuition inquiries, all that shit was unavailable. fucking lame. i just wanna get a degree and get out of this uni and out of this town.

ironicly, the only course that i really enjoyed was japanese at waterloo through cross-registeration. 1 semester of japanese and i know 10 times as much than 6 years of french can give me. go figure.


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rahvin
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada

3rd year at Seneca for Computer Systems Technology

This course rocks, hands down. They teach you tons and tons of very valuable skills in many different areas of computers. I like every one of my teachers and they are ALL very helpfull. Of course, I go to the don mills campus where there is about 1000 students in a building that's smaller then my highschool

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Porky
State of Halcyon....



Registered: Sep 2001
Location: GU13
MIS grad school at Northwestern

hey durafei...

you're going to have those kinds of kids in all programs. but i never regretted doing my undergrad at UWO (Western).

your degree is important. w/o my undergrad, i would not have been able to
1. work in the USA (you need a degree to get your TN1 Visa)
2. get into grad school (currently studying MIS at northwestern)

your future may be hazy and your motivation a bit low, but when you graduate and get your degree it'll be all worth it!

Pork


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malek
drinks your milkshake!



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal
Re: So, who is satisfied by their university/college education?

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
With most of here on the board studying at universities/colleges, I'm just wondering what do you guys think of your program?

Are you satisfied with that you studying? Is it what you hoped for when you got into university/college?

I'm studying Comp. Science at the University of Waterloo. Up to couple of years ago and probably still, it was considered to be the best comp. science program in Canada. Lately, however, Waterloo started accepting way to many people, and as a result quality of courses have deteriorated. Courses have become much easier than before, which will eventually result in reputation of the school falling. I like my program, but I hate how a lot of people in the program get away with getting a degree doing virtually nothing(for instance the hardest and most essential part of the program is doing various projects in CS; however as it turns out
you don't even have to do them(they are only worth like 25-40% of the course) in order to pass the course). I don't really care how other people get their degrees, but where is my motivation to study, when you don't really have to in order to obtain the degree?


i'm with you with that one, universities seem to have opened wiiiiide their doors accepting any jackass!! i'm at uqam doing computer science and our computer department is the largest one in canada (number of students) and there's so many sorry asses there man and how the hell do you want all these people to find jobs??? myself i'm getting my degree in decembre and the market is completly dead/overcroded I'm so fucking disapointed you can't imagine. I'm a computer freak who loves what i study and shit... but i won't find a job anywtime soon because of the idiots who decided to transform universities into diploma factories.

as for the quality of education, lets just say its about which teacher you take a class with: some teachers are pure geniuses but others (majority because of the huge number of students) are fucking idiots and don't deserve to be in university! on paper, the program here is amazing, but in reality teachers never have the time to complete and as for the project counting for 30-40% i think its fine cause it used to be more like 80-100% and people copied each other and it was all meaningless... a computer class needs written exams to cover some theories.


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