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Originally posted by oDrori OK, so this thread focuses on 2 questions I've been pondering the last few days, connected at each other: 1) What is 'Uplifting House' 2) Some people say Club Trance is in fact a sub genre of House... anyone care to explain?

uplifting house = uplifting trance
the trance that we know 2day is actually evolved from melodic house...

as many will say to ya, the real "trance" is psy trance, but that doesnt matter if ur not dealing in psy trance...
anyway i dont think that the "trance" ur hearing today is trance at all, its house music, but thats comes from a point of view of a person that was raised by psy trance, its just a matter of ur POV (Point Of View)...

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Originally posted by Vortex_SA uplifting house = uplifting trance the trance that we know 2day is actually evolved from melodic house... as many will say to ya, the real "trance" is psy trance, but that doesnt matter if ur not dealing in psy trance... anyway i dont think that the "trance" ur hearing today is trance at all, its house music, but thats comes from a point of view of a person that was raised by psy trance, its just a matter of ur POV (Point Of View)...

The way I was tought, 'House' and 'Melodic' don't really fit toghether...

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Originally posted by oDrori The way I was tought, 'House' and 'Melodic' don't really fit toghether...

lol, thats what everybody say, but thats not true, ever heard jazz-house?
maybe techno is not melodic, but not house... u all remember the sinple "spaceman" of "baby lone", its an old record from 96, in that time the trance u know today didnt existed yet, now listen to the "space dream mix", and tell me if thats not melodic, i know this cos i collected alot of old electronic records over the time, and u can listen to the, and u see what house was like before 10 yrs, and it was all melodic, in that time there was no deep house, only progressive house, and that was barely... so now u see what i mean???

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Originally posted by Vortex_SA lol, thats what everybody say, but thats not true, ever heard jazz-house? maybe techno is not melodic, but not house... u all remember the sinple "spaceman" of "baby lone", its an old record from 96, in that time the trance u know today didnt existed yet, now listen to the "space dream mix", and tell me if thats not melodic, i know this cos i collected alot of old electronic records over the time, and u can listen to the, and u see what house was like before 10 yrs, and it was all melodic, in that time there was no deep house, only progressive house, and that was barely... so now u see what i mean???

Don't really consider that one house... But you and I can go on forever bout this, I wanted to see what the rest of the guyz round here think

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Originally posted by oDrori Don't really consider that one house... But you and I can go on forever bout this, I wanted to see what the rest of the guyz round here think

ok, but i disagree with u on that that it not house, cos on the other side of that vynil it says "rock house mix" and its melodic, but suit urself

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melodic house, i would think are tunes lime '29 palms - touch the sky'

a house bass line & trance/melodic sounds

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Originally posted by DJ-Ande melodic house, i would think are tunes lime '29 palms - touch the sky' a house bass line & trance/melodic sounds

in he original trance there was no melodies at all, it was a game of FX and beats, but it really depands on the POV, i think that this tune is deep house...

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Originally posted by Vortex_SA in he original trance there was no melodies at all, it was a game of FX and beats, but it really depands on the POV, i think that this tune is deep house...

meant to the palms 29 - invading privatly... not the one u wrote, which i dont remember

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Originally posted by Vortex_SA maybe techno is not melodic

there are enough techno tracks that are melodic as hell

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The term "house" has changed over the years but I'm from Chicago and I can say when I was in 6th grade we used to breakdance to mixes from BMX that were recorded at The Warehouse. (a club in Chicago)
Also the first "house" songs were basically disco songs with a backbeat. I think Frankie Knuckles used to take old disco songs and early Depeche Mode songs and add a backbeat with a Roland drum machine. so in a way disco evolved into house which evolved into trance. Even though I HATE happy house!!!!

Nice thread...

Personally, lately I've been having hard times trying to consider club trance (like the stuff from AvB and Tiesto) as a trance at all -- heck, sometimes it even seems to me a little bit cheesy!

Oh, and Vortex_SA:

It's Mach 747 - Invading Privately (29 Palms Remix) to be more precise.


Continue the discussion, please!