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historical context of the bible and other books...
hey eveyone,
ok first off lets keep this thread friendly. i know we all have our religious ideals, but lets try to keep those out of the dicussion. instead i would like to talk about proof of actual events in the bible. these of course do not have to support religion, but they can if they do..so lets here some of the historical facts about what possibly lead to some of the events in the bible.
i'll start with one of the most familiar story's...moses.
ok so the story basically goes like this. moses warns the king to let the jews go, king says no, then follows are the plagues of egypt. after that moses leads to jews across the red sea, which swallows the pursuing forces. then they wonder around the desert for a while and then they come to the mountain of god. moses climbs the mountain talks to god and recieves the ten comandments.
ok so here could be some proof that some of these events are actually true. all of these are connected so i hope that it doesn't get too confusing.
first, the plagues of egypt... in the 5th or 6th century i forget which one, there was a volcanic eruption on the island of santini, north of crete. this eruption, which has been estimated in comparison to the mt saint helens eruption in the eighties to be 1000x more powerful, could have caused these "plagues." when comparing to the mt st helens eruption...you had similar things happen i.e. the sky turned black...frogs everywhere...dead animal carcuses from the blast etc. now giving the sheer size of the eruption on santini, of course these things would be increased.
as far as the splitting the red sea and everything. well first off, it isn't the red sea. in earlier renditions the hebrew word "suph" was used which translates to "sea of reed" which over time was, over time misinterpreted into sea of red. this of course leads to the question...well were was that then. it seems that the coast of egypt has reeds all along it so it is now believed that do to a tital wave caused by this eruption on santini...first the water withdrew and then of course the wave came. there is evidence to support this theory because pomus, formed from volcanic blasts, was found on the the egyptian coast and dated and matched to the eruption on santini.
now the wondering in the desert. there hasn't been much proof that a huge mass of people have migrated across the desert, but new evidence is coming up now that digs have been allowed in what used to be a hostal spot of the world.
as far as the mt of god...it has always been assumed that well mt sinai is the tallest that must be it...but there is new evidence that a mountain to the north east could actually be the mountain. on the egypt-irseal border there is a mountain called mt karkom...which translates into mt of god. if you remeber from sunday school...when moses climbs the mountain he talks to god through the burning bush blah blah and before he goes back down he builds an alter with 12 standing stones one for each of the tribes of egypt or something to that effect. well on the top of this plateau they found a small rock alter consisting of 12 standing rocks that has been dated to 2000 years ago. there is some time discrepency to that which happened in the bible, but still very interesting. also at the base of this mountain there are small circular encampments and also near the site there has been found a small pictopragh which closely resembles the two stone tablets that have the commandments on them. further, this picture is drawn so that these tablets are diveded into exactly ten sections.
i don't know how everyone feels about this kinda stuff, ubt i think that it is so interesting. i have a lot of other stuff that i'll post eventually, but for now...what else have you guys heard?
oh and in regards to the burning bush...i forgot the name of the plant, but there is a bush in the middle east that produces a natural oil that is flammable and has been known to combust in extreme heat. all this stuff is so interesting.
Last edited by Floorfiller on Dec-31-2002 at 18:49
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