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CarlosM
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Valencia, Venezuela
Making Classic Music??

Hi Guys, Is possible to make good Classical Music with such programs like FL or reason?... or any recomendetions?

Thanks in advance,
Carlos.

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brash
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Claremont, NH

You can't synthesize a real person playing a real instrument. That is pretty much the heart of "classical". The most you could hope for is some sort of cross-genre electronic-classical something. Listen to William Orbit's "Pieces in a Modern Style" to discover exactly how terribly this turned out.

You might also produce ambient or new-age, if this is what you are interested in. But it will invariably lack something a "live" musician would bring. Unless, of course, you simply use the software as a way of arranging or mastering or something.


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xfer
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: California

you could easily make classical. You just have to actually play it. Theres was apart of Bach's Tocatta that was made into a hard trance song, but they actually replayed the melody. If you you want to you can get some old classical midi's and mess with the arrangement to match a bpm.

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CarlosM
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Well, Thanks... and about ambient or new-age Music.. Wich sofware is recommended to make this kind music??

Thanks.

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mantisnl
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Registered: Jul 2001
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just use some good samples and it can be done very easily.. the only hard thing is composing the very complex chords of classical music


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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

It depends... when I use midi stuff, the strings sounds excellent, however, the piano sounds childish and the oboe sounds like a duck being tortured to death. If you want to produce new age, try Absynth, its pads are perfect

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Reason 2.0

with the orkester sound bank it is unstopable.

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Peter Campbell
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One of the keys to successful emulation of any instrument is to listen and analyse what's being played. The major problem here is that when it comes to orchestral parts, it's probably fair to say that most of us do not have the grounding in classical music necessary to apply them

learn the limitations of pitch and tone a particular instrument has, here's a few

Piccolo 12 56 D6 to C9 G6 to F8
Flutes 0 60 C5 to C8 F5 to F7
Oboes 0 68 Bb4 to G#7 F5 to A6
English Horn -7 72 E4 to A6 G4 to F6
Bb Clarinets -2 58 D4 to Ab7 D4 to C7
A Clarinets -3 58 C#4 to G7 C#4 to B6
Bass Clarinet -12 56 Db3 to F6 Db3 to F5
Bassoon 0 70 Bb2 to Eb6 F3 to B5
Contrabassoon -12 72 Bb1 to Eb4 n/a
French Horns -7 64 D3 to F6 Bb3 to C6
Trumpets -2 70 E4 to E7 G4 to D7
Trombones 0 80 E3 to Bb5 G3 to G5
Tuba 0 92 A2 to Bb4 A2 to Bb4
Timpani 0 50 n/a n/a
Bass Drum 0 48 n/a n/a
Cymbal 0 40 n/a n/a
Triangle 0 40 n/a n/a
Celesta 0 38 C5 to C9 C5 to C9
Piano 0 28 A2 to C9 A2 to C9
Harp 0 18 Cb1 to G#8 Cb1 to G#8
Violins 0 15 G4 to B7 G4 to B7
Violas 0 88 C4 to C#7 C4 to C#7
Cellos 0 105 C3 to C6 C3 to C6
Double Bass -12 120 E3 to G5 E3 to G5

don't use global sounds like 'strings'. Split your voicings nice into violin, viola, cello and bass (the same with brass&woodwinds)

also emulate the instruments positions in an orchestra by their positions in the stereo field - violins to the left, basses and cellos to the right etc

now you need the samples

Miroslav Vitous Symphonic Orchestra

http://www.ilio.com/miraslov/index.html

also try Peter Siedlaczek's Advanced Orchestra


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brash
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Claremont, NH

quote:
Originally posted by Peter Campbell Miroslav Vitous Symphonic Orchestra

http://www.ilio.com/miraslov/index.html


I believe the Miroslav Vitous are recognized as THE best solo string samples. Don't know about the rest of the instruments, nor about ensembles.

I'm assuming, though, that you won't be spending the thousands of dollars necessary to purchase this stuff, anyway...


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