I'd like to find out everyone elses opinions/views on this subject, here's mine:

Cloning technology should be embraced, and extended to humans for medical purposes, as well as any other constructive use. The potential for medical advancements is almost endless! There is obviously a need for some type of regulation, as there is undoubtedly someone willing to use this technology in a manner not intended. It seems most of the opposition is derived from religious beliefs, which carry no weight in my books... so besides some minor (imo) social issues that need to be sorted, what are your arguments for opposing this advancement? Let's hear 'em...

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Last edited by .montecarlo. on Dec-28-2002 at 21:36

I have no serious issues with cloning besides the fact that it will eliminate the need for sex. However, cloning technology should be more researched and perfected before serious attempts are made.

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Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior I have no serious issues with cloning besides the fact that it will eliminate the need for sex.

that would never happen

I don't see anything wrong with it provided its done in a manner that is effective and doesnt cause a lot of birth defects, and that steps are taken to make sure the clone is able to be ok physcologically, maybe as far as not telling it when it matures.

im for it, i think it would be almost impossible to stop humanity from evolving, in this case being the acquistion of knowledge and insight into human cloning.

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against when it's used for things like "oh i want a kid that looks like this and that and thinks like this and that and bla bla bla"

for when it's used to clone hears , livers and other human parts for transplantations

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Unfortunately, the majority of the public aren't really educated on this subject, and of course, fear what they don't know.

I believe cloning is an amazing tool for scientific and medical research. We've already cloned many other species, and human cloning is just hte next step.

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Originally posted by quddha Unfortunately, the majority of the public aren't really educated on this subject, and of course, fear what they don't know.

absoloutley correct rite there. I mean i hav researched quite a lot into this in my studies in Science at college One day in another class i take (general studies) a topic that came up we had to debate, was human cloning. I was appauled at the arrogance of some of my other class mates, who were saying how terrible it is on a scientific level, when clearly they didnt hav a clue about the process, and were just basing there opinions on films like 6th Day, and shit. Wankers!! all of 'em heh. Like u said, don't fear what you don't know.

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Eventually it will become vital that we do understand the techniques of cloneing, and genetics. Eventually we will be forced to leave this planet, and we will hav to physically alter evolution, so that we can live else where. Its just a matter of time before something needs to be done, and i think its great we are looking into such technology now, rather than later.

I haven't seen any meaningful opposition to human cloning that does not involve either religion or extreme paranoia. Since I don't think arguments from either of those perspectives ought to be seriously considered, I have no reason to oppose human cloning (assuming it is used responsibly).

Currently there are problems with reproductive cloning as the children are sometimes deficient, and age faster. Besides, I think reproductive cloning which would make a grown individual identical to the one that allready exists has no reasonable purpose whatsoever, and that it shouldn't be done, except in very extraordinary circumstances.
However, I am for therapeutic cloning, and for altering genetic codes of unborn babies to repair deficiencies. I am also for altering genetic codes in view of improving human race.

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genetic engineering and cloning goes hand in hand, you can't talk about one without talking about the other.

sometimes i don't understand some people that agree with cloning and genetical engineered humans.

how about a country deciding that in the future all kids will be genetically profiled as to eliminate the ones with the alzeimer disease. that would be cool. then they decide that the ones with crooked and handicaped legs should also be. ok fine its good. then the midgets and giants because they don't fit the standards in place in transportation, clothing, etc. well uhm sounds ok, and then eliminate all those with tendecies to be lazy, alcoholic, violent, unproductive, weakly built, fatsos, etc etc etc.

what if an army decides to produce a super soldier (and that already happened), a dictatorship perfect from disease. _then_ people would say well, it wasn't that good of an idea... why take a chance?

my point is that its very very difficult to define a limit on this, as what is valid, invalid and pure craziness. in some ethnicities some traits are well seen in others badly seen. boundaries are impossible to be drawn.

I oppose cloning because its a pandora box and its better and easier to just keep it shut than to toy with the idea and tests its limits. it could backfire in some twisted way that no one here imagined or would ever be able to.

and for those wanting to bring back a lost child or some shit like that, well its life, get over it and make another one . also find a grievence counselor

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Last edited by malek on Dec-30-2002 at 09:30

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I oppose cloning because its a pandora box and its better and easier to just keep it shut than to toy with the idea and tests its limits. it could backfire in some twisted way that no one here imagined or would ever be able to.

Every new technology brings with it the possibility of abuse or irresponseble use. But we shouldn't not use that technology because of that. With that attitude, we wouldn't have nuclear power, for example, or many other technologies. It is stupid to restrict a branch in science that can offer so much things, like curing genetic diseases, which were previously uncurable, it can cleanse gene pool of humanity of all deficiencies, and in the future, who knows, it can make us smarter, immortal...
You can always go live with the Amish if you don't like it.

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and for those wanting to bring back a lost child or some shit like that, well its life, get over it and make another one . also find a grievence counselor

That is stupid. Besides the new child won't have the personality of the previous one.
Hope genetic engeneering will make people smarter, tho, so they won't do that kind of stupid things

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