Hey guys, i just wanted to know how would I slow down a record??
Your prolly thinking wtf? hehe hold on.
I am not asking about beatmatching.

What i mean is when you let the cue track go and it's a bit ahead and you want to slow it down just a tiny bit... Do you lightly touch the lable, the record or the platter ?

I also find it much much easier for me to push a record(if needed) to match the beats(Beatmatching already done) then to slow it down a bit. I never had any control over this and it really annoys me.

I know you can "pitch-bend" but my tables are really bad and when i finish beatmatching, i don't go near pitch control untill i need too.

Now the reason i think its harder for me to slow down rather than push is because if the horrible tourque on my tts(1520 numarks). i also have wax paper under my slipmats to give you guys more information.

Any comments/Suggestions would be Great.

Thanx in Advance.

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Last edited by Arsalan on Jan-11-2003 at 06:26

hmm, i would still recommend "pitch bending" them, and re-adjusting afterwards. physically adjusting the platter is not as accurate as using the pitch.

if you get good at working the pitch, with crappy tt's, moving to technics will be heaven.

i have numark tt-100's - the pitch control isn't great at all - but i'm getting the hang of it. just stick with pitch, and practice.

just my $0.02.

EDIT: oh as for your original question, if you're going to slow it down, and you absolutely have to push, use the platter, and lightly apply force with one finger. that is probably the most accurate "physical" way, i'd say.

as to why it's easier to speed up a record as opposed to slowing it down, i believe it's a psycholgical thing. if you train yourself, you should be able to match it either way, just as easily.

Last edited by Alccode on Jan-11-2003 at 06:34

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Originally posted by Alccode hmm, i would still recommend "pitch bending" them, and re-adjusting afterwards. physically adjusting the platter is not as accurate as using the pitch. if you get good at working the pitch, with crappy tt's, moving to technics will be heaven. i have numark tt-100's - the pitch control isn't great at all - but i'm getting the hang of it. just stick with pitch, and practice. just my $0.02.

as much as i hate pitch-bending, i know how useful they are but pitch bening on my tables is just terrible, i pull it off sometimes but then i wont have enough time to play alot with the mixer as the pitch will be off a tiny bit causing it to go into "trainwreck", which causes me to do the transiton quickly which results in not a smooth mix. BLAST!

Will the wax make any difference ? should i take it off maybe it's easier or leave it because im alredy use to it..

thanx for your comments

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I use the labels a lot. For nudging I sometimes use the spindle. After beatmatching is done I almost always stay away from the pitch slider unless absolutely neccessary..

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I like to grab the nipple (or spindle) on my Stanton's to slow the record down a bit

i slow the record down by dragging my fingers on the pitch dots. the reason i do this is beacuase it is constant for every song, where as some records are slipperier than others, so dragging on the label will not always slow it down the same amount.

unfortunately, when speeding up the record, you can't push on the pitch dots. so i usually push on the label, but GENTLY and with a circular motion as close to the center of the spindle as possible.

ideally though, both of these are bad habits, especially if the track is playing live, because of two reasons:

you can hear the change in pitch if you aren't super gentle.
the record could skip or slide to far if it's slippery.

so, ideally you use the pitch bend method. i admit though, it's a pain in the ass, and once i have it beatmatched, i am afraid to touch the pitch too, so i sometimes adjust the record by hand. it's nasty though, i listen to my mixes later, and the sound is totally noticeable. it's a bad habit i am trying to break.

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I would say it depends on how much u need to slow it down!
I toutch the platter lightly. but if its in the mix that can 'sometimes' get fucked up, so sometimes it makes more sense to try to slow it down by grabbing the spindle lightly if u just need the smallest bit of a slow down. This is taking you have a set of Techs though or some decent vestax though.

haha, if i had techs or some nice vestax i would beatmatch and that would be final.

can't afford those right now i got some shitty ass tables.

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quote:

Originally posted by DJ Arsalan Hey guys, i just wanted to know how would I slow down a record?? Your prolly thinking wtf? hehe hold on. I am not asking about beatmatching. What i mean is when you let the cue track go and it's a bit ahead and you want to slow it down just a tiny bit... Do you lightly touch the lable, the record or the platter ? I also find it much much easier for me to push a record(if needed) to match the beats(Beatmatching already done) then to slow it down a bit. I never had any control over this and it really annoys me. I know you can "pitch-bend" but my tables are really bad and when i finish beatmatching, i don't go near pitch control untill i need too. Now the reason i think its harder for me to slow down rather than push is because if the horrible tourque on my tts(1520 numarks). i also have wax paper under my slipmats to give you guys more information. Any comments/Suggestions would be Great. Thanx in Advance.

i have those same tables
to slow down the record use the nipple
grab it and grip, using a slight backwards turning motion with your hand
you can kinda drag your fingertips along the label at the base of the nipple as you do this to help slow down the record a bit
with those tables it's all about having soft hands
they're VERY touchy

i would suggest you get a pair of techs or another table with good torque

cause playing with these tables causes you to develop a very soft touch when playing

and i've found that playing on techs you need a heavier hand and it takes a little bit to figure out just how heavier you have to be

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speedup = pushing the label
slowdown = putting slight finger pressure on the outer rim. just down from the slipmat :P

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okay thanx for all your help, im gonna start touching the labels less and play with the spindle, platter, tip of the record etc.

Thanx for all the help gys

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i had your tables before i bought mk2
i have the answer for you

you hold the pin in the middle of the record with 2 fingers that will slow down the record just a bit
you can also accelerate it this way

with thes table you should always do that cuz if you touch the vinyl it is very easy to notice it
and if you touch the platter the vinyl will just stop!

the pin in the center is the better way to handle these tables