Jungle/DnB & Techno = is the fucking hardest !!! You really have to pay attention ... any mistake can be heard clearly to the crowd. Even our locals have a hard time mixing in tracks sometimes.
Trance = Mixing melodies ... it's all about the psychology !!! Building a journey is not that easy. PvD is crazy though ... he has amazing mixing skills and psychology.
Progressive = You gotta leave the mixes playing for a lonnnnnnng time.
House & Breaks = Smooth mixing and blending
Jan-16-2003 01:07
E*Master
Retro*Master
Registered: May 2002
Location: Etobicoke, Ontario Canada
IMHO It is classic mid 90s RAVE music. Cause face it. Stuff like Bluemchen and Dune are hard to fuckin' mix especially once u hit 200 BPM
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Jan-16-2003 01:20
exergo
life's a trance
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: San Francisco
but in jungle, since the music is so abstract and mashed up, bad mixes can go undetected by the rugualr clubber...but screw up a house mix...everyone hears it : )
Jan-16-2003 01:35
mot10n
go home, get down
Registered: Jul 2002
Location: KW
hehe, i laugh every time you say rave, cuz you always capitalize it emaster but i tend to agree with you, attempting to beatmatch at crazy high bpms must be tough, especially when you throw in the vocal stuff, and knowing when certain tracks build up and break down and such.
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Jan-16-2003 01:36
LKD
Omni-peasant
Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Its June 18th, 2005, I'm at the Skybar
even tho im not a fan, id say happy hardocore is hard....but then againi aint no expert so just my thought and ya..jungle and dnb are crazy to mix
you **** hair licking bitches
mixing, hard or easy, reflects on the person on the turntables.
Jan-16-2003 02:31
mot10n
go home, get down
Registered: Jul 2002
Location: KW
wow, someone's testy...
and i'm sure some styles are harder to spin than others. just say you started spinning, with no experience. i'm sure you could pick up house or progressive lickity split, beatmatching wise. with faster stuff you'd be like "wtf is going on?!" and totally miss bringing the next track in.
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Jan-16-2003 02:40
E2EK1EL
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario
quote:
Originally posted by weeman
you **** hair licking bitches
mixing, hard or easy, reflects on the person on the turntables.
EZ THERE BADMON
We are talkin' about the muzuk ... not the DJs themself. Either you have the skillz or you don't ... is a different story.
having mixed all the styles mentioned...i would say each require their own section of expertise
like jungle/dnb...its not too hard to get them beat matched (although ragga is a bit more difficult because of all the snare drums around the 2nd/4th beats) and the mixes don't often last long at all, however its hard to mix the really heavy basslines that sometimes clash really bad if not done correctly
happy hardcore is actually a lot easier than people make it out to be
i find the faster the bpm's, the easier it is to beatmatch (because you find out a lot quicker if the beats aren't lined up or not) and the mixes often involve lots of cuts and really quick mixes...usually lasting 64 beats or less
the way i figure it, the slower the music, the harder it is to beatmatch it
however you can't really say that one style is harder than the other because nobody out there has completely mastered all genres of music, hell i don't think there's anyone out there who has mastered one genre
to master a genre, i think you have to be able to mix between songs so flawlessly that not even the best trained ear can notice the mix...im completely off track.../end post
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Jan-16-2003 04:01
mot10n
go home, get down
Registered: Jul 2002
Location: KW
see, i never would've thought that about the faster, the easier, hehe. i guess it is true you learn something new every day
either that or i'm just generally stupid...
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Jan-16-2003 04:20
E*Master
Retro*Master
Registered: May 2002
Location: Etobicoke, Ontario Canada
quote:
Originally posted by mot10n
hehe, i laugh every time you say rave, cuz you always capitalize it emaster but i tend to agree with you, attempting to beatmatch at crazy high bpms must be tough, especially when you throw in the vocal stuff, and knowing when certain tracks build up and break down and such.
Capitalize lol. Yes I do . But I trid mixing Ravea couple of times, it is nearly impossible. Especially with vocals u are right. Since most of the songs I have start out with about 20-50 Sec. of vocals and don't give me enough time to mix them
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Jan-16-2003 05:57
E*Master
Retro*Master
Registered: May 2002
Location: Etobicoke, Ontario Canada
quote:
Originally posted by Kid Lax
happy hardcore is actually a lot easier than people make it out to be
i find the faster the bpm's, the easier it is to beatmatch (because you find out a lot quicker if the beats aren't lined up or not) and the mixes often involve lots of cuts and really quick mixes...usually lasting 64 beats or less
that maybe withhappy hardcore but most RAVe (as I know it :P) is so filled with vocals that perhaps it makes it impossible to mix. Have u ever tried that? I have miserably Failed but perhaps u can
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