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Trance Plant
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Registered: Feb 2002
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Moon Landings

I always believed, and still do, that NASA was able to accomplish their goal of having a man walk on the moon. However, there are many conspiracy theorists out there that believe otherwise. No doubt this makes me think about the whole event and what actually transpired. It is fascinating more than anything.

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What are your thoughts?

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Old Post Jan-04-2003 13:14  Canada
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Yoepus
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The simple reason why I don't believe it was a hoax:

The Russians would have said so.

And if it was true, people would have believed the Russians then.

I'm sure it was not very hard for a rival superpower to simply point a telescope to the moon and look at the landing first hand. I'm sure they did this, and I'm sure this is why they did not critize it as a hoax.

Old Post Jan-04-2003 18:02  Israel
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Originally posted by Yoepus
The simple reason why I don't believe it was a hoax:

The Russians would have said so.

And if it was true, people would have believed the Russians then.

I'm sure it was not very hard for a rival superpower to simply point a telescope to the moon and look at the landing first hand. I'm sure they did this, and I'm sure this is why they did not critize it as a hoax.


Smart comment

Indeed a good theory!

Old Post Jan-04-2003 20:16  Netherlands
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LiquidX
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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
The simple reason why I don't believe it was a hoax:

The Russians would have said so.

And if it was true, people would have believed the Russians then.

I'm sure it was not very hard for a rival superpower to simply point a telescope to the moon and look at the landing first hand. I'm sure they did this, and I'm sure this is why they did not critize it as a hoax.


Well, the Russians couldnt say so, because they still have no proof to make SUCH COMMENT. And one of the reasons why the Russians didnt go to the moon first, and still heavent, is because of the Sun rays ( theres some very bad rays, radiations and so on ) were so powerfull, that the astronauts would come back with Tumors or sicknesses, so they didnt get them in danger. So their question is and probably is why are american astronauts doing good and all. I saw the TV show about the theorys and so on. They showed detailed how the sun was suppost to be making a certain shadow, yet, the shadows in the picture were going all at different angles . As well, on one of the films the flag is moving, though theres no air. .. theres also Area 51 . I dont know, but this has had me thinking.


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Yoepus
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Well, the Russians couldnt say so, because they still have no proof to make SUCH COMMENT. And one of the reasons why the Russians didnt go to the moon first, and still heavent, is because of the Sun rays ( theres some very bad rays, radiations and so on ) were so powerfull, that the astronauts would come back with Tumors or sicknesses, so they didnt get them in danger. So their question is and probably is why are american astronauts doing good and all. I saw the TV show about the theorys and so on. They showed detailed how the sun was suppost to be making a certain shadow, yet, the shadows in the picture were going all at different angles . As well, on one of the films the flag is moving, though theres no air. .. theres also Area 51 . I dont know, but this has had me thinking.


I'm sorry, what in god's world made you think the Russian's couldn't have pointed a telescope at the moon in 1968 and watched the moon lander, well, land?

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And one of the reasons why the Russians didnt go to the moon first, and still heavent, is because of the Sun rays ( theres some very bad rays, radiations and so on ) were so powerfull, that the astronauts would come back with Tumors or sicknesses, so they didnt get them in danger.


How come all the astronauts that are going for space walks around the earth orbit aren't all dead then by now. There is no atmosphere there, and their exposure to solar radiation lasts much longer, some of the astronauts have thousands of working hours in outer space.


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Yoepus
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How come all the astronauts that are going for space walks around the earth orbit aren't all dead then by now. There is no atmosphere there, and their exposure to solar radiation lasts much longer, some of the astronauts have thousands of working hours in outer space.

well, apparently that must be a conspriacy too then !

I can't believe, men haven't even done space orbits.. and that must mean that international space station is a hoax too!

damn.

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Trance Plant
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Originally posted by Yoepus
I'm sorry, what in god's world made you think the Russian's couldn't have pointed a telescope at the moon in 1968 and watched the moon lander, well, land?


There's no telescope in the world that would enable anyone to see the landing. The details would be too small for any telescope to be able to pick it up.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
How come all the astronauts that are going for space walks around the earth orbit aren't all dead then by now. There is no atmosphere there, and their exposure to solar radiation lasts much longer, some of the astronauts have thousands of working hours in outer space.


Mmm for your information, they are not at all in SPACE, they are at the highest atmosphere I guess, not sure on that though. One thing Im sure with is, that between the moon and the earth, THERE IS SPACE, and thats where this rays are, not at the rotating surface of the earths atmosphere, where the astrounats, stations and so on are. Plus, the moon has no atmosphere, so thats where also the rays wich were mention, are the ones they probably referred to.


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At the height they're at the atmosphere is so thin that it is basically unnoticable. If there would be enough atmosphere there to stop cosmic rays, the ISS would burn up in 5 minutes because of its speed. Most cosmic rays are stopped in higher levels of atmosphere, but way below the ISS. Maybe every cosmic ray in a million is stopped there, but for the effects to be obvious that's waaay below the limit. What you forget about is that the astronauts were in a capsule during their flight to moon, and the material from which it was made absorbs cosmic rays much much better than the atmosphere, so they were protected from it then, and their moon walks took only few hours if so, and there they were protected with their jumpsuits which also protect from cosmic rays. The atmosphere is so good at protecting from cosmic rays (although some do reach the surface) because it's tens of kilometers wide. But the same, or probably better effect can be achieved with 10cm of lead.


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discojoe
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NASA has recently come out and refuted all of the conspiracy theories. I think they even published a book but I dont remember where I saw it on the net. Ill look for it

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Mmm for your information, they are not at all in SPACE, they are at the highest atmosphere I guess, not sure on that though. One thing Im sure with is, that between the moon and the earth, THERE IS SPACE, and thats where this rays are, not at the rotating surface of the earths atmosphere, where the astrounats, stations and so on are. Plus, the moon has no atmosphere, so thats where also the rays wich were mention, are the ones they probably referred to.


This argument is ridiculous. The altitude of the ISS and most space missions in general occur above the ozone layer which filters out the majority of harmful rays that the sun emitts. And though the gravitational effect of earth may be misconstrued with the atmosphere of earth missions that take place in 0 gravity are generally outside of earth's atmoshphere. Besides ... high energy particles from the sun are less harmful than intense gamma rays from a close radioactive source and we have suits to protect people from that. So why would it be so hard to protect astronauts?

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