Hey guys/gals,

I was thinking of buying a MD player but im not sure which one.

I don't have a lot of cash and i don't want anything special at all.

All the MD players now don't eat a lot of battery so that is not a big concern to me.

Now what i need is a MD player that i can record my mixes using the REC output from my mixer therefore it needs a line-in (3.5 mm) i think that's what it is.

Now the most important thing is transfering files from my comp to my MD i need fast transfer like using usb digitally(32x,30x, whatever as long as it's not analog), i hate that analog bs (it takes sooo long).

if i could transfer songs from MD to Computer it would be great(upload), or if you could recommend an MP3/CD player, i don't want anything heavy.

Thanks in Advance.

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I think that getting an MP3 recorder would be a better choice. The quality is about the same and you can record basically forever on an MP3 recorder. You are limited to the length of an MD with an MD recorder though. (74 min?) With xmas right around the corner, you may want to ask for one... or at least money toward one!

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md is a better choice i think. you have more functions on the md like editing. you also can record 4 cds on one md (mdlp). i have md and its great!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dj Flesch
I think that getting an MP3 recorder would be a better choice. The quality is about the same and you can record basically forever on an MP3 recorder. You are limited to the length of an MD with an MD recorder though. (74 min?) With xmas right around the corner, you may want to ask for one... or at least money toward one!

Not true. You can record up to 5 hours of music on an MD. And if that's not enough go buy another MD for $2.00 and keep on recording. MD is a more versitile and useful format than mp3. Period. Anyone who has given MD a chance will agree. Sony makes two portable MD recorders that have all the feautres you mentioned. One just has more extras, like car kit and charging stand a stuff. youc an get the lower end one for $130 if you shop around. You can record at 30x speed from the net, fit 5 hours of music on one disc, and you can record directly from your mixer or CD player. Try that with your mp3 player. 1 AA battery lasts FOREVER. I use mine at least an hour a day at the gym, and I only replace my battery about every other month.

i sell mds at an audio store
you got two of the more popular models from sony (there is one newer one from sony, but harder to find)
the mzn505 and mzn707
505 is the base model
comes with:
1. free MD
2. USB cable
3. Software
4. basic headphones
usually retails for about 129-180

707 includes:
1. Rechargable batteries
2. Carry case
3. Car kit
4. Mic and has Mic input for digital voice recording
5. remote control (not wireless)
6. USB cable, free MD, and software to install
7. higher-end sony headphones
usually retails for about 199-270

And MDs are more versatile than MP3 players, less expensive in long run.
Keep in mind that although mp3 players will hold more music (about 20 hours per 64mb) than MDs, after filling up the RAM, you got to delete the music or upgrade RAM. But Ram isnt cheap... it will run for about 80-300 bucks, depending on the amount u get.
MD will go for about 2 bucks. Also, if memory fails or malfunctions, then u got a 90 piece that broke, as opposed to a 2 dollar disc. Keep that in mind.
One final thing...
the only way to record on the two models mentioned above, through you mixer, would be with an optical cable. Meaning that you would have to have an optical output on your mixer,,, if you dont, then you have to record on to your computer, then computer via usb to md. Unless you use an anolog to digital converter, but then your talking extra money (a lot easier to do it the longer way)

Peace,
Ricky

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Originally posted by bachatu i sell mds at an audio store you got two of the more popular models from sony (there is one newer one from sony, but harder to find) the mzn505 and mzn707 505 is the base model comes with: 1. free MD 2. USB cable 3. Software 4. basic headphones usually retails for about 129-180 707 includes: 1. Rechargable batteries 2. Carry case 3. Car kit 4. Mic and has Mic input for digital voice recording 5. remote control (not wireless) 6. USB cable, free MD, and software to install 7. higher-end sony headphones usually retails for about 199-270 And MDs are more versatile than MP3 players, less expensive in long run. Keep in mind that although mp3 players will hold more music (about 20 hours per 64mb) than MDs, after filling up the RAM, you got to delete the music or upgrade RAM. But Ram isnt cheap... it will run for about 80-300 bucks, depending on the amount u get. MD will go for about 2 bucks. Also, if memory fails or malfunctions, then u got a 90 piece that broke, as opposed to a 2 dollar disc. Keep that in mind. One final thing... the only way to record on the two models mentioned above, through you mixer, would be with an optical cable. Meaning that you would have to have an optical output on your mixer,,, if you dont, then you have to record on to your computer, then computer via usb to md. Unless you use an anolog to digital converter, but then your talking extra money (a lot easier to do it the longer way) Peace, Ricky

Hey man maybe you can help me get one i like the extra stuff on the 707 like the craying bag and all the other stuff, and i know what you mean by recording using the the optical it's RCA - 3.5 mm jack that goes in line-in of MD, if you could get me a used one i still wouldn't care as long as it works fine and i get some kind of warrenty.

Let me know what happens..

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So i have a question then, can you really just plus your mixer right into the back on the MD player? cause if so that might be a bettter way of etyting my mixes onto my computer and then CD's for friends. Plus just general listening to. Since I have aMac I'm having trouble finding a good soundcard to use with X. Also if I do it this way, then what's the quality of the recording?

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Originally posted by Omad0n So i have a question then, can you really just plus your mixer right into the back on the MD player? cause if so that might be a bettter way of etyting my mixes onto my computer and then CD's for friends. Plus just general listening to. Since I have aMac I'm having trouble finding a good soundcard to use with X. Also if I do it this way, then what's the quality of the recording?

Na man,,, you can if your mixer has an optical output, not all mixers do, cause the MD players, the ones mentioned above only have optical input.
Regular rca will not go into optical, you would have to convert the RCA analog to digital using a box, but that is quite expensive
Usually high end mixers have optical output and input.
I think DJM600 pioneer has it, but im not sure if its only an input. I think certain Rane models have it. Usually studio equipment carries it. Some PC sound cards have optical output, some computer cd players, and almost stand alone cd burners (not computer burners) have it.


DJ Arsalan:
I dont have accessories.. im a sales rep at an audio store that carries the new ones, so i wouldnt be able to get any accessories.
i believe you can purchase a carry case from sony... check their site.

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Originally posted by bachatu Na man,,, you can if your mixer has an optical output, not all mixers do, cause the MD players, the ones mentioned above only have optical input. Regular rca will not go into optical, you would have to convert the RCA analog to digital using a box, but that is quite expensive Usually high end mixers have optical output and input. I think DJM600 pioneer has it, but im not sure if its only an input. I think certain Rane models have it. Usually studio equipment carries it. Some PC sound cards have optical output, some computer cd players, and almost stand alone cd burners (not computer burners) have it.

NOT TRUE! Just last week I recorded about 3 hours on new vynil on MD by plugging my portable MD directly into my mixer using a 3.5 to RCA adapter cable that I got from Radio Shack years ago. Even though my MD input says "optical" on it, it still worked perfrectly. Mine is model preceeding th ecurrent 707.

I still have seen nothing posted that lists what MD has over MP3 records. The Archos jukebox is one of the better ones out there.

USB data transfer
frequency responce is 20-20,000Hz
MP3 encoding at 30-320 VBR (variable bit rate) or you can select 30-160 constant bit rate.

It has all of a discman's features with fast forward, display and search menus etc.

In addition to all of this, the cheaper 10GB version can hold over 55H of playback at 160kbps encoding. The 20GB can hold double that.

It can also double as a portable 10GB hard drive too. It has direct live recording features that you can plug directly into your mixer (with a separate RCA to 1/8" headphone jack).

10GB version lists for $220, and I'm sure you can find it much cheaper.

20GB version lists at $280, again, I'm sure you can find that for much cheaper too.

check out www.archos.com for more details.

So what does an MD recorder offer over this?

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Lets See, Sony NetMD has:

USB Transfer at 32x speed
20-20,000Hz Freq. Resp.
Record any bitrate mp3's you want
play, fast forward and all that PLUS:
-split tracks
-join tracks
-add tracks
-delete A-B
-trim tracks
Record directly from CD, Mixer, PC, Mac, DVD, Live (with mic input)
5hrs of music on $2.00 disc (if you need more, go buy another disc)
media is infinately removeable and reuseable
Players are cheaper than a good mp3 player ($120-$150)
Not dependant on a PC

MD is more versitile as a Music recording and playback medium. There is no question about it. Your mp3 player cannot record from any source but a PC. You cannot edit tracks onthe fly, if you want to burn new music, you have to delete whats on there already.

Last edited by club4life on Dec-19-2002 at 23:38

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Originally posted by club4life Lets See, Sony NetMD has: USB Transfer at 32x speed 20-20,000Hz Freq. Resp. Record any bitrate mp3's you want play, fast forward and all that PLUS: -split tracks -join tracks -add tracks -delete A-B -trim tracks Record directly from CD, Mixer, PC, Mac, DVD, Live (with mic input) 5hrs of music on $2.00 disc (if you need more, go buy another disc) media is infinately removeable and reuseable Players are cheaper than a good mp3 player ($120-$150) Not dependant on a PC MD is more versitile as a Music recording and playback medium. There is no question about it. Your mp3 player cannot record from any source but a PC. You cannot edit tracks onthe fly, if you want to burn new music, you have to delete whats on there already.

Okay, the MP3 recorder can transfer at the same speed, it has the same frequency responce, and it CAN record from any live source through ITS line in and does NOT require a PC to record music from.

So the only advantage is that you can edit tracks on the fly and price. Big whoop, I can record over an over again. The two MP3 players I was talking about have 10X-20x the capacity of the MD disks, and you don't have to buy or carry around those discs. It's all internal. You can't subject your HD to the physical damage that you can a disc. And even if the cheaper MP3 recorder does require a PC, most people have them anyway...at least everyone in this forum discussing this topic does. So then you can use your PC to edit your music. The software that is available for that purpose is MUCH better than anything you can do on an MD.

When purchasing a recorder, you basically have to think about what you want it to do and what you already have that can perform the funtions you want to do too. Sure price is a factor, but I just found a 10Gb for $149 and a 20GB for $225. The 10GB has 10 MD discs worth of capacity and if all you really want to do is use it for recording live sets, then you have 55h instead of broken up 5 hour segments. What if you are recording an entire party? You'd have to have segmented discs etc.

Anyway, I'm not saying that MP3 records rule and MDs suck, I'm saying that MP3s are just as good for most purposes and they can dual as a 10GB hard drive if you want to transfer data. That makes it just as versital if not more than an MD recorder.

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