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malek
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Behold, my arse. CIA and FBI dispute Iraq's ties to al-Qaeda

CIA and FBI dispute Iraq's ties to al-Qaeda

By JAMES RISEN and DAVID JOHNSTON
The New York Times

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration’s efforts to build a case for war against Iraq using intelligence to link it to al-Qaeda and the development of prohibited weapons has created friction within US intelligence agencies, government officials said.

Some analysts at the Central Intelligence Agency have complained that senior administration officials have exaggerated the significance of some intelligence reports about Iraq, particularly about its possible links to terrorism, in order to strengthen their political argument for war, government officials said.

At the Federal Bureau of Investigation, some investigators said they were baffled by the Bush administration’s insistence on a solid link between Iraq and Osama bin Laden’s network. “We’ve been looking at this hard for more than a year and you know what, we just don’t think it’s there,” a government official said.

The tension within the intelligence agencies comes as Secretary of State Colin Powell is poised to go before the UN Security Council on Wednesday to present evidence of Iraq’s links to terrorism and its continuing efforts to develop chemical, biological and nuclear weapons and long-range missiles.

Interviews with administration officials revealed divisions between, on one side, the Pentagon and the National Security Council, which has become a clearing- house for the evidence being prepared for Powell, and, on the other, the CIA and, to some degree, the State Department and agencies like the FBI.

In the interviews, two officials, Paul Wolfowitz, deputy defense secretary, and Stephen Hadley, deputy national security adviser, were cited as being most eager to interpret evidence deemed murky by intelligence officials to show a clearer picture of Iraq’s involvement in illicit weapons programs and terrorism. Their bosses, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and the national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, have also pressed a hard line, officials said.

A senior administration official said discussions in preparation for Powell’s presentation were intense, but not rancorous, and said there was little dissension among US President George W. Bush’s top advisers about the fundamental nature of Saddam Hussein’s government. “I haven’t detected anyone who thinks this is not a compelling case.”

Bush asserted in his State of the Union address last week that Iraq was protecting and aiding al-Qaeda operatives, but US intelligence and law enforcement officials said the evidence was fragmentary and inconclusive.

“It’s more than just skepticism,” said one official, describing the feelings of some analysts in the intelligence agencies. “I think there is also a sense of disappointment with the community’s leadership that they are not standing up for them at a time when the intelligence is obviously being politicized.”

Intelligence professionals have expressed fewer reservations about the administration’s statements concerning Iraq’s weapons programs. There is broad agreement within intelligence agencies that Iraq has continued its efforts to develop chemical, biological and probably nuclear weapons, and that it is still trying to hide its weapons programs from UN inspectors.

Officials said the United States had obtained communications intercepts that show Iraqi officials coaching scientists in how to avoid providing valuable information about Iraq’s weapons programs to inspectors. At the United Nations, Powell may also display US satellite photographs showing Iraqi officials moving equipment and materials out of buildings before they can be inspected by the United Nations.


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Absolutely true - and it's even a U.S. media source.

I guess that's reliable when it says what you want to hear, eh?

But seriously, the argument about the ties with Al-Qaeda has been illogical from the start. Demagoguery at its purest. They make the war look worse by coming up with these kind of bullshit reasons for it.

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if I had posted the same shit from a "biased" source, the whole thread would get hijacked to another direction... leaving the main subject undiscussed.


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quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
if I had posted the same shit from a "biased" source, the whole thread would get hijacked to another direction... leaving the main subject undiscussed.


Yeah I know man, I'm just kidding. It's a good article.

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It's fucking priceless, Tony Blair says there is no link, the americans are saying Saddam Hussein trained the guys that hijakced the planes on september 11th!
apart from the fact Saudi Arabia had to stop Osama from killing Hussein in 1989, I think america got it right, they're best buds!

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but there IS a clear link between iraq and al-qaeda, see for yourself!


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funny cartoon JohnSmith!

it really is a clear connection!!
Bomb those ******s!


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quote:
Originally posted by melech_mike
funny cartoon JohnSmith!

it really is a clear connection!!
Bomb those ******s!


Yeah.. and when they bomb those ******s....maybe saddam may bomb the ******s in Israel....YAAAAAAAAAAY


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Behold, my arse. Cyrus, do you speek Hubhalash?

yea... those ******s who are still able to live freely within israel should also get their ass's bombed! Dont know why israel still lets them live there!






































fuckin' cockroach Terrorists!


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