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Elmo-On-XTC
Pea... Tear... Griffin

Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada
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I am beginning with producing, but I'm kinda a sample whore so that doesn't REALLY count. I want to learn but it's hard to find good tutorials on making trance melodies etc without having background knowledge in fruityloops or reason.
first of all you need equipment. Doesn't have to be hardware. James Holden for example uses a free software synth program called Buzz. Other programs are Fruityloops (which i'm starting to understand now), Reason, Cubase, Orion...etc
Background music influences help a lot (which is where I lack). Piano particularly because you're dealing with a piano roll of notes.
From what I've heard from other producers, hardware synths aren't necessarily better but they've noticed that creativity level soars when going from software to hardware. I'm too poor to afford them tho haha anyways...
There seems to be a lot of TOTAs interessted in producing lately (Mosaic, Sooper, HanSolo, Myself)...maybe we can work on a track together (MAYBE A TRANCEADDICT ANTHEM! WOOOO )
I have one of my better sample whore productions almost complete but i kinda gave up on it, msg me if you wanna hear it.
Btw, my producing name is Energia
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Feb-20-2003 00:47
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Matt
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada
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| quote: | Originally posted by Elmo-On-XTC
I am beginning with producing, but I'm kinda a sample whore so that doesn't REALLY count. I want to learn but it's hard to find good tutorials on making trance melodies etc without having background knowledge in fruityloops or reason.
first of all you need equipment. Doesn't have to be hardware. James Holden for example uses a free software synth program called Buzz. Other programs are Fruityloops (which i'm starting to understand now), Reason, Cubase, Orion...etc
Background music influences help a lot (which is where I lack). Piano particularly because you're dealing with a piano roll of notes.
From what I've heard from other producers, hardware synths aren't necessarily better but they've noticed that creativity level soars when going from software to hardware. I'm too poor to afford them tho haha anyways...
There seems to be a lot of TOTAs interessted in producing lately (Mosaic, Sooper, HanSolo, Myself)...maybe we can work on a track together (MAYBE A TRANCEADDICT ANTHEM! WOOOO )
I have one of my better sample whore productions almost complete but i kinda gave up on it, msg me if you wanna hear it.
Btw, my producing name is Energia |
whoooo!!! LeMay vs. Energia 
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Feb-20-2003 01:27
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Crazy Serb
.tw1sted.mothe®.fu©ker.

Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Sin City
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You don't need much to start producing... all you need is creativity (the most important part), some background knowledge of music theory, and some solid software (or if you can afford it, solid hardware)...
I've been using Fruityloops for the last year or so, just playing with it and fuckin' around, learning my way into the whole concept... now I find that it's not powerfull enough for what I am trying to create, so I moved onto Reason & Live combo, plus I'm using a bunch of other software/plugins to create all kinds of effects (Absynth, Kontact, etc)
But to be honest with you, I've heard some amazing stuff created in Fruityloops alone... so if you know what you're doing, and have some creativity/originality and determination, you can come up with a kick-ass song.
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Feb-20-2003 04:37
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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!

Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe
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Well, I've been an instrumentalist for 13 years and I learned to "track" the cold, hard, un-lubed old school way (original MIDI FM synthesis, FastTracker, Impulse Tracker). Laugh all you want, but that was the true blue composition software where you had to do everything yourself, the software didn't do much of the work for you. I've also got a Yamaha W5, it's a hardware sequencer, about 5 years old but does still play... and yeah I've played around with fruityloops and cubase and all that, it's all good.
But yeah, point being, if you want to produce then just make music. You don't need expensive equipment, but high-quality samples and versatile synths do help you "audiolize" (is there a word for that related to visualize?) things better, they just make it easier to experiment. I wish I had the kind of equipment you do, man.
But hey I'd love to hook up if you guys are forming a production group. Hope there wouldn't be too much creative clashing though.
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Feb-20-2003 04:49
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jon jon
viva la clubland

Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Footwork
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Feb-20-2003 09:57
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rabbitjoker
aural sadist

Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA
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Re: Anyone Hear Interested In Producing Music?
| quote: | Originally posted by aries
Just wondering...I have wanted to do it for years, and I've never really taken the steps to learn/start doing it. I'm interested in Trance, but I'd also be open to Techno too.
As for the Equipment I have: 2 Technics 1200 MK2's, American DJ XDM 2221 Mixer, Stanton 680 Stylus and Headshells and one Ghetto Ass Amp.
On my desktop computer I have Soundforge.
I have no clue as to whats needed.
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It's weird how the techno/dance/rap scene calls "producing" creating the music [composing] whereas the traditional music industry calls it composing [producing is supervising, as in the movies].
My brother is an engineer for Sony Music and here is what he suggests
(based on his professional use [mostly non-techno]:
Software: Cubase or ProTools or Logic (ProTools has a light version that won't cost too much - Cubase is affordable - and Logic is too). He also states that most production is done on Macs, or ProTools rigs (which are big expensive hardware protools setups).
Hardware: Mixer, Sampler, Midi-keyboard
Sample CDs: You can buy instrument CDs with whole setups for your midi-keyboard and then float in samples.
That should do it for a basic rig. Let me know if you want me to ask him other questions.
With this basic setup, a
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Dark Dirty Tech Tribal. | Hands in air (trance) and feet on the floor (house).
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Feb-21-2003 03:05
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rabbitjoker
aural sadist

Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA
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| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Well, I've been an instrumentalist for 13 years and I learned to "track" the cold, hard, un-lubed old school way (original MIDI FM synthesis, FastTracker, Impulse Tracker). Laugh all you want, but that was the true blue composition software where you had to do everything yourself, the software didn't do much of the work for you. I've also got a Yamaha W5, it's a hardware sequencer, about 5 years old but does still play... and yeah I've played around with fruityloops and cubase and all that, it's all good.
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Yeah! I remember the old S3M and XM file-type days when you had to program every friggin instrument and note in the damn tracking software (old DOS based shit). Those were the days.. 
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Dark Dirty Tech Tribal. | Hands in air (trance) and feet on the floor (house).
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Feb-21-2003 03:08
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