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Great Outdoors
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Singapore
Is this the Beginning of the End?

First we got news of Lightning Records ending operations; now we see Airwave threatening to quit the scene.

WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE ELECTRONIC MUSIC SCENE? IS MP3 REALLY SLOWLY KILLING OFF OUR MUSIC?

Most importantly, what CAN we do to help stop this slide? We are all saying things like "Yeah, support your artists", but the Hub is still running, Kazza is still sharing and we all know mp3s wil never go away.

I personally appreciate the existence of mp3s, but I have no idea that I am actually playing my little part in destroying dance music by choosing to keep these pieces of music in my hard disk. I still buy CDs and vinyls after I sample them (I REALLY DO), so what more can I do? Never sample mp3s again and delete all the music I have from my hard drive?

What is going to happen now?


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Old Post Mar-14-2003 17:35  Singapore
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demons
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Brighton

quote:
what CAN we do to help stop this slide?


make an effort to go to trance clubnights as much as possible and encourage all your friends (not just the big events). recruit new people

buy your favourite trance artists albums at least.

buy your favourite club's compilations when they come out

maybe take the step and get into djing vinyl or cds if your are not already (buy decks an stuff)

thats a start...whatever you can do of these is aiding the cause

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Rememberence_
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Registered: Oct 2002
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Quite a controversial issue... I can't say that I am one sided on this. I think without the free distribution of MP3s that most of these artists wouldn't have half the recognition that they have. That said, it's still against the law, and for a reason.

Personally I don't feel particularly bad about downloading MP3s because if I didn't, then I wouldn't BUY as much vinyl as I do. I feel good about supporting the artists that I love when I buy their music.

Regarding Airwave, are you saying Airwave is threatening to leave the industry because of MP3s ??


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Az
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Walking to John O'Groats for some spastics

not at all
If a DJ wants a Vinyl, they'll buy it......
Without knowing the ins and outs of what actually happened, it's hard to say, but I cannot honestly see MP3's being that big a problem, especially when single sales are concerned. I download MP3's, last year I spent nearly £3000 on vinyl, a lot of it on Lightning and sublabels stuff. I bought what I liked, and didn't buy what I didn't like. I can't help thinking this is just a front for poor management of finances, poor marketing of the products. Especially with Bonzai, as I'm pretty sure this isn't the first time they've been in trouble, I was told a while back that a few years ago they went under, and M.I.K.E had to pay out of his own pocket to save them. All the signs are there for bad management, and Mp3 is a poor excuse for a scapegoat.....

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Technaut
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i seem to have heard al this shit before.

is this the end? and all that paliver.

im not worried, neither should you be


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djSlain
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wasn't tehre an artist who gave out his album for free distrubution on the internet? (for some reason i'm thinking sasha) where are they now?


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Rememberence_
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I agree Az.

by the way, re: is this the end of the industry, you don't have to be macgyver to realise that it isn't. People aren't just going to suddenly stop loving and producing music.


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Az
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quote:
Originally posted by Rememberence_
re: is this the end of the industry, you don't have to be macgyver to realise that it isn't.

funniest thing I've read all day

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magicsushi
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all i can say is that if airwave is quitting for that reason..then he is pretty lame. I am sure that he must have other reasons for quitting...if he actually is?!

ne ways..one record label down..who cares...there are a bunch springing up now too...and i think it is time for a fresh new look at music...

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Ze TranceLover
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: somewhere in France

the problem isn't the MP3 himself in fact.
MP3 is just a file like a .JPG or .MPEG...

Problem is the CD BURNER. Mp3 is the victim.
L-Vee's arguments sucks imo. If producers stop making music because of the mp3s, I think music (all genre) will die forever.

pffff airwave lie if this rumor is true.

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T_2199
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Registered: Dec 2001
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Re: Is this the Beginning of the End?

quote:
Originally posted by Great Outdoors
so what more can I do?


C:\del *.mp3

no I think nobody would help that! mp3s are great and I don´t know why Lightning Records run out of money but not because of mp3!!

quote:
all i can say is that if airwave is quitting for that reason..then he is pretty lame


Yeah I think he would be in for the music ?! Well he´s in for the money...


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Rememberence_
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Registered: Oct 2002
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lol Az Macgyver is a feckin legend people. I can't count the times he's saved the day, stopping world war with a mousepad and some orange juice, curing cancer with a fold-up umbrella

but back to the topic -

quote:
Yeah I think he would be in for the music ?! Well he´s in for the money...


What an assumption! There are very strong principles behind this discussion; you can't say that it's only money he cares about!


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