Become a part of the TranceAddict community!Frequently Asked Questions - Please read this if you haven'tSearch the forums
TranceAddict Forums > DJing / Production / Promotion > DJ Booth > belt-drive vs direct-drive
Pages (2): [1] 2 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Share
Author
Thread    Post A Reply
robin
OMGTTFOWTISFBIDK



Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Almere
belt-drive vs direct-drive

me as TT n00b whats better and why?

direct-drive?

belt-drive?

gr.

robin

Old Post Apr-20-2003 17:30  Netherlands
Click Here to See the Profile for robin Click here to Send robin a Private Message Add robin to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
TranceInMySoul
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Southampton, England

Direct drive is way better. More consistent and more reliable.

Old Post Apr-20-2003 17:34  United Kingdom
Click Here to See the Profile for TranceInMySoul Click here to Send TranceInMySoul a Private Message Add TranceInMySoul to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Matt
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada

belt drive are turntables that are turned by the spindle being attached to a motor off to the side.

direct drive places the motor directly underneath the spindle.

Direct drive has higher torque, and runs much more steadily than belt drive.

My advice, direct drive all the way. Belt drive is a waste of time and money if you plan to DJ.


___________________
//..

Old Post Apr-20-2003 17:44  Canada
Click Here to See the Profile for Matt Click here to Send Matt a Private Message Add Matt to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
chesco
out to lunch



Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Glasgow

as above. belt drive suck

Old Post Apr-20-2003 18:27  Scotland
Click Here to See the Profile for chesco Click here to Send chesco a Private Message Add chesco to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Dj Flesch
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Indianapolis, USA

I'll try to provide a short comparison between the two.

In short direct-drive (dd) is better for djing over belt-drive (bd).

Direct Drive works via a motor sitting directly underneath the spindle and spins the platter. The motor uses magnets to turn the platter and because of this, you don't have any parts of the motor directly touching the platter. You'll see dd TTs advertising brushless motors, which is what the magnetic "brushes" are all about--not brushing up against the platter. This results in a lower amount of background noise, compaired to bd. One con of a dd system is that it cost much more to manufacture and because of this, all dd systems will be considerably more than even the best bd TTs. More pros of a dd TT is that it provides better wow and flutter. Wow is the slow variation in the pitch of a sound reproduction resulting from variations in the speed of the TT platter. Flutter is the rapid variation in the pitch of a sound, again resulting from the variable speed of the turntable. The lower these numbers the better, in general. The greater % of pitch adjust available on the table will increase these numbers. The Numark TTX1 for instance, has a higher wow and flutter rating over the Technic 1200, but the TTX1 can have a pitch adjustment of upto +/- 50%, where as the 1200 has +/- 8% (or up to 10%, I think, if you modify the internal set screw). Since the dd motors are made with better parts and more power, they also come with more torque. Torque is the force that is applied to you axle in your car from the rotation of your engine. This force turns the axle and hence the wheels, which results in horsepower. This is basically the same with a TT, though since there is no forward motion, there is only torque and not HP. The greater the torque, the quicker and more accurate your motor can start up and keep its velocity, and hence the platter and your record! This is a good thing because you don't want to release your record on a particular beat and then have to wait for your TT to come up to speed. You want it to come up to speed very very quickly so that your two records are beatmatched! These are the main benifits of a dd TT, and they definitely warrant spending the extra money if you will be using the TTs for djing.

Bd TTs do have one main advantage over dd tables. That advantage is price! If you want a decent table to use to record all of your vinyl onto your computer and then transfer all of those tracks to CD, then bd isn't a bad choice if you are on a budget. Dd is still better due to the wow and flutter rating, though this eliminates the need for more torque because you will let the table come up to speed before the track actually starts playing. Budget constraints should be the only reason you get a bd TT though, unless you don't plan on Djing with it or using it for HIFI recording--the most consistantly piece of advice that I've seen from those who have bought bd TTs is that they regret buying them due to their inability to maintain a constant speed--hence you can't beatmatch effectively. If you are sure that you want to DJ, then save up for good tables. You can even start with a really cheap mixer to start and upgrade that later, though I'm sure you'll find that it will be hard to save money once you get addicted to buying vinyl--everyone does Decent dd TTs are a must if you want to stick with Djing, otherwise you will just get frustrated in your investment and the inability of your investment to give a good return.

If you tell us more about your situation, budget and wants, then we can help you out quite a bit more, but remember, the more details you provide, the better we can help you!


___________________
When you dance, the DJ takes you on a journey, but he or she is usually not the focus of your experience at a club or festival or wherever you hear the music. Dancing is. Music is.

Old Post Apr-20-2003 20:26  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for Dj Flesch Click here to Send Dj Flesch a Private Message Add Dj Flesch to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Bryant
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Los Angeles, Ca

^^^ Exactly what I would of said.

Old Post Apr-21-2003 01:11  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for Bryant Click here to Send Bryant a Private Message Visit Bryant's homepage! Add Bryant to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Haunted
one scary ass mothertruck



Registered: Oct 2001
Location:

lets cut it to the point..
if you want to DJ - get direct drive
if you want to listen to records - get belt drive


___________________
this is it.

Old Post Apr-23-2003 08:10  Zimbabwe
Click Here to See the Profile for Haunted Click here to Send Haunted a Private Message Add Haunted to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Ghostface
down with the sickness



Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Melbourne

Belt Drive are a good way to get into it if you don't know how serious you are. If you get sick of djing after a few weeks you've saved a lot of money.


___________________
Meh

Old Post Apr-23-2003 08:42  Australia
Click Here to See the Profile for Ghostface Click here to Send Ghostface a Private Message Add Ghostface to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
qfx
Junior tranceaddict



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: waterloo

quote:
Originally posted by Ghostface
Belt Drive are a good way to get into it if you don't know how serious you are. If you get sick of djing after a few weeks you've saved a lot of money.


^^ not true .. dont even consider belt driven turntables, if you are looking to dj. If you are on a budget buy the cheapest/shittiest direct drive decks, as they are still 10x better than belt driven tables.

jW

Old Post Apr-23-2003 12:11 
Click Here to See the Profile for qfx Click here to Send qfx a Private Message Add qfx to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
mettkea
Ableton Live 5 User



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Nevada

There is no question about it...direct drive is the way to go! You will definetly regret belt-drives!

Old Post Apr-23-2003 14:18 
Click Here to See the Profile for mettkea Click here to Send mettkea a Private Message Add mettkea to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Blithe
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: Apr 2003
Location: CTA #31

Like was said above, belt drive's can't hold a beatmatch.

Like recess says on his site:

quote:
Belt Driven decks suck. This isn't from a "To be a Dj you must have Technics" point of view. It's the truth. Belt-Driven decks suck. You'll hear people telling you that they're using Belt-Driven decks, and there's nothing wrong with them, "Oh yeah, I've had mine for years, can do anything on them, scratch, mix, cook, play frisbee, solve the worlds debt and hunger problems...." Fine. If you want to listen to them rather than me, then I'm not going to get all fussed and bothered about it, but PLEASE, stop asking me if it's OK to use Belt-Driven decks, then bugging me about it for two weeks, ignoring what I say, then sending me a mail two months later saying "Yeah, you were right, they suck. How can I make them better?" At which point, I just hit the delete button. It's the only thing I'm a wanker about. This is something I feel passionate about, that belt-driven decks are for people who either a) Aren't serious about Dj'ing, b) are only going to use them for a couple of months as a test to see if they're going to like Dji'ng, or c) Think with their wallets instead of thier heads.


I recommend reading into his gear suggestions to get a more detailed comparission, although I believe the statement above should have helped change your mind

http://www.recess.co.uk

Old Post Apr-23-2003 17:15  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for Blithe Click here to Send Blithe a Private Message Add Blithe to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Tiger777
Pensionable tranceaddict



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Ternat

ya, read that, its intresting.
but, the main problem with belt drived TT's, is that they can't keep up the tempo very well, where DD TT's can. For example, a DDTT can keep 1% more speed with 100% accuracy. But, a belt drive can't, it depends on the temprature and how humid the room is. And, another thing, a belt drived tt is waaaaaaay weaker than a dd
Saving money? Good to begin with? hell no!
If you buy a belt driven TT, you'll NEVER learn to beatmatch with that!


___________________

quote:
Originally posted by Push2005
Ik ben net terug begonnen met cassettes op te kopen... Die pitchcontrol is echt ongelofelijk !

Old Post Apr-23-2003 17:32  Belgium
Click Here to See the Profile for Tiger777 Click here to Send Tiger777 a Private Message Add Tiger777 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message

TranceAddict Forums > DJing / Production / Promotion > DJ Booth > belt-drive vs direct-drive
Post New Thread    Post A Reply

Pages (2): [1] 2 »  
Last Thread   Next Thread
Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackthe remixes? [2002] [5]

Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackSubsunday - "No Good" [2003]

Show Printable Version | Subscribe to this Thread
Forum Jump:

All times are GMT. The time now is 10:57.

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Search this Thread:

 
Contact Us - return to tranceaddict

Powered by: Trance Music & vBulletin Forums
Copyright ©2000-2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Privacy Statement / DMCA
Support TA!