well, to be honest, no, not really. at least they are direct drive, that's good. here, read my little rant on why to get techs. maybe you will change your mind.

Here is the reason that you should get technics 1200SL decks:

one of two things is going to happen when you get your technics. Either:

a) you will love them, and decided that you are loving DJ and you never want to stop. In this case, you are in a great position. You have the same deck as almost every club in the world, and every DJ in the world. You will never need to upgrade your decks, and you know that they will last literally DECADES if you take care of them.

OR

b) you will decided DJing is not for you, and decide to sell your decks. In this case, you will probabally be able to sell them for about as much as you bought them for, and maybe even more. Just take a look on www.ebay.com and watch how many bidders are after a set of tech12s, and you will quickly realize how valuable these decks are.

So, there is is, get technics, it's win-win situation.

Then, there is another option. You can get cheaper, lower quality decks. in that case, the same two things can happen:

a) you love DJing, but are frustrated that your decks don't hold pitch, have no torque, skip like a schoolgirl, have as many breakdowns as a set of oakenfolds from '99, vibrate near any sound source, or whatever else. or even just that they don't feel the same as the decks at clubs and raves, so you learn on yours at home, then try to beatmatch on techs in front of a crowd and get tomatoes thrown at you. in anycase, you'll be wanting to sell these decks. problem being, nobody is going to want to buy them. if you can sell them, i can almost guarantee you won't get what you paid for them. most likely, they will collect dust in your attic or basement, or be sold for a pittance to some wannabe DJ who doesn't know any better.

OR

b) you hate DJing. In this case, you will want to sell your tables, and will encounter the same problems as in point a. It could even be that you hate DJing just cuz you had crappy tables. (don't give up till you try a pair of tech12s, for me that was the closer, i just loved the feeling)

so, crappy decks, it's a lose-lose situation.

now, there are a few more things to think of. everything that is not a tech12 is not neccesarily a crappy deck! there are others that have just as high torque, low wow and flutter, good insulation from vibration etc. these include the Numark TTX-1 (and NUMARK TT-200, the same motor and build, but without the fancy display), the stanton STR-100 and STR8-100, and higher end gemini and vestax models.

However, NONE of these tables can boast the reputation of techs for longtime durability, simply because they haven't been around that long. and most cost almost as much as technics anyway.

overall, in choosing a DJ deck, i think technics are your best bet. Numark TTX1 is a close second, but i won't be buying one for another 3 or more years, when i start hearing about their reliability. Stanton are pretty good too.

Above all don't even CONSIDER buying belt drive decks. you didn't good job.

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well, thanks.. but ones again i really CANT afford technics,(i'm only 16.. jobs don't pay a lot at that age ) and i'm pretty sure i CAN resell this tabels if i want to, just beleave me I CAN, maybe not for the same price but that doesn't matter.

about the pitch, i heard that the pitch on those tabels are pretty OK, not perfect but.. , i'll reather learn dj-ing on a semi perfect setup than on a perfect setup, that seems the best way te learn it to me.

thanks anyway,

robin

Well as JohnSmith completely ignored the fact that you can't afford technics, I will try to give you some usefull advise (even if you had money i'd advise the TTX1 or PTD-6000 instead of technics anyway).

The Behringer VMX200 is defenitely a decent mixer, if you can spare SOME extra cash i'd go for the VMX300, wich I can assure, is very good (especially for the very low price). It's got 3 channels (convertable), kill switches, crossfadercurve-buttons, low, mid, high (-32 +12 dB), beatcounters, talkover and it's possible to cue in every possible way.

Don't know about the tt, trying to find some info about it appearrantly leads to a gay porn site But Stanton is known for having good tt's. So eventow It's a pretty low-ranged tt I assume it will be more than fine to start with.

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Originally posted by Nabistai Don't know about the tt, trying to find some info about it appearrantly leads to a gay porn site

what? no it doesn't. what kind of sites have you been visitin? :P

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Originally posted by JohnSmith what? no it doesn't. what kind of sites have you been visitin? :P

LOL

This one: Here (do not click this link if you are under 18 )

But I just noticed that I got to that site whit searching for 'STR8-3' Instead of 'STR8-30'.

yes, i know about the vmx300, but this is sold as a pack, it on an american site, i hope i can buy it anyway, they have a shipping around the globe sign on there site so that must not be a problem, (unless the shipping costs are really high (i'm from holland btw).. than i have to look elsewhere, but at leased i know what to look for (if that happens i'll switch the 200 for an 300)

thanks everyone

robin

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Originally posted by robin well, thanks.. but ones again i really CANT afford technics,(i'm only 16.. jobs don't pay a lot at that age ) and i'm pretty sure i CAN resell this tabels if i want to, just beleave me I CAN, maybe not for the same price but that doesn't matter.

you sure you can sell them? a quick search on ebay turned up one page of stanton STR8-30s for sale.

http://search.ebay.com/search/searc...stanton+STR8-30

guess what, not a single bid, even though some are ending in about 7 hours.

Here's 2 pages of technics 1200s.

http://search.ebay.com/search/searc...y=technics+1200

almost all of them have bids, and the ones that don't mostly have first bids priced to high, or 0 feedback ratings for the seller.

I know it's tough to afford techs. just save and save and save! if you have limited money, that's all the more reason to get techs, because you don't want to lose your investment.

if you NEED to get into mixing immediatly, then buy a mixer, like the behringer you suggested, and start mixing mp3s on your computer using free software like virtual turntables.

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Originally posted by robin about the pitch, i heard that the pitch on those tabels are pretty OK, not perfect but.. , i'll reather learn dj-ing on a semi perfect setup than on a perfect setup, that seems the best way te learn it to me. thanks anyway, robin

do whatever you feel is right, i can only give my advice when asked for. here's a personal example. my friend ben bought a pair of stanton STR8-80s (a few steps up from what you are planning to get). they weren't sufficient, so he sold them (for a big loss) and got STR8-100s. now, he is pretty happy with them, but wants to sell them and get techs.

with the money he loses from selling these, he could have had techs in the first place!

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Originally posted by Nabistai LOL This one: Here (do not click this link if you are under 18 )

how bout just if your not gay?

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Originally posted by Nabistai But I just noticed that I got to that site whit searching for 'STR8-3' Instead of 'STR8-30'.

why bother searching when he posted a link in his first post?

http://www.stantonmagnetics.com/alpha44/tt_str8-30.asp

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I know but I always check multiple sources, specs don't mean anything unless you've talked to some people that actually used the stuff your gonna buy

you do have a really strong point there, BUT if they turn out to be crappy (with's i fail to beleave, really crappy tabels don't get sold!) your links, there for ebay USA, things are really diferent here, those TT are (almoste) not for sale anywhere here, the mixer is word 120$ (on an us site) means thats it word even more here in NL, there ar LOTS of ppl searching for 2 TT for around 200 euro's (1 euro = 1.10 $) if i keep the mixer, and sell the tabels for 200 (or a bit more if they bid up agianst eachother) than my losses will be minimal or even 0

i'll think about all of this agian,

thnx

robin

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Originally posted by robin really crappy tabels don't get sold

I must seriously disagree here!

Take this for exemple



ans there are much much worse out there