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Coup
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Search Improvement

As the minimal search string = 4 letters, i understand why but it also rules out unique 3 letter searches, like Goa, Psy, BT ( know not 3), etc..

running a 3 letter search for a unique string like goa is ok, its when the is searched, and it all goes to hell. firstly blocking common 3 letter words such 'the / and / him / she', can compile a list easily and then having searches like this queued. if someone wants a 3 letter search while the HDD is loaded, then queue it, when the HDD is under less stress, the search term can be searched and the results PM'd somehow.

depends if u wana program that amount. i think 'BT' is the only 2 letter term i can think of.

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Maybe if it's too hard to filter out the generic <4 letter words, we could do it by white list. There aren't too many <4 letter words that we "really" need anyway. As we need more, we could probably update the white list easily.



Oh and let the white listed words have the same priority as regular search queries.

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JohnSmith
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops

BT is the only 2 letter word you could think of searching? how about DJ? or TT (common abbreviation for turntable). or CD. those all get missed.

The problem with searching is that it takes a tremendous amount of processing to do, especially if words like "the" are searched on. it's not the length of the word, but the frequency of it. The best way to get around this is to have a list of unsearchable terms.

This is what we do, if you search for a common word, then you get this message:


Ignored Terms:

The following terms are ignored by search. This is done to provide both faster search results and more relevant results.
a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y, z, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, $, about, after, all, also, an, and, another, any, are, as, at, be, because, been, before, being, between, both, but, by, came, can, come, could, did, do, each, for, from, get, got, has, had, he, have, her, here, him, himself, his, how, if, in, into, is, it, like, make, many, me, might, more, most, much, must, my, never, now, of, on, only, or, other, our, out, over, said, same, see, should, since, some, still, such, take, than, that, the, their, them, then, there, these, they, this, those, through, to, too, under, up, very, was, way, we, well, were, what, where, which, while, who, with, would, you, your


our servers are searching 3GB sql server databases, and the results usually come back in less than 5 seconds.


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Spad
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Chesterfield ,UK

The search just hunts out strings doesn't it, not just whole words. So a search for BT would also bring up any thread with the words

debt, debts, doubt, debtor, doubts, obtain, obtect, obtest, obtund, obtuse, subtle, subtly, bobtail, debtors, doubted, doubter, obtains, obtests, obtrude, obtunds, obtuser, redoubt, subtask, subtaxa, subteen, subtend, subtest, subtext, subtile, subtler, subtone, subtype, bobtails, codebtor, debtless, doubters, doubtful, doubting, indebted, misdoubt, obtained, obtainer, obtected, obtested, obtruded, obtruder, obtrudes, obtunded, obturate, obtusely, obtusest, obtusity, redoubts, reobtain, subtasks, subtaxon, subteens, subtends, subtests, subtexts, subtheme, subtiler, subtilin, subtilty, subtitle, subtlest, subtlety, subtones, subtonic, subtopia, subtopic, subtotal, subtract, subtrend, subtribe, subtunic, subtypes, unsubtle, unsubtly, bobtailed, codebtors, doubtable, doubtless, misdoubts, obtainers, obtaining, obtesting, obtruders, obtruding, obtrusion, obtrusive, obtunding, obturated, obturates, obturator, reobtains, subtaxons, subtenant, subtended, subthemes, subtilely, subtilest, subtilins, subtilize, subtitled, subtitles, subtonics, subtopias, subtopics, subtotals, subtracts, subtrends, subtribes, subtropic, subtunics, thumbtack, undoubted, bobtailing, doubtfully, doubtingly, misdoubted, obtainable, obtainment, obtrusions, obturating, obturation, obturators, obtuseness, obtusities, oversubtle, reobtained, subtenancy, subtenants, subtending, subterfuge, subtextual, subtilisin, subtilized, subtilizes, subtilties, subtitling, subtleness, subtleties, subtotaled, subtotally, subtracted, subtracter, subtrahend, subtropics, thumbtacks, undoubting,
doubtlessly, misdoubting, obtainments, obtrusively, obturations, redoubtable, redoubtably, reobtaining, subterfuges, subterminal, subtileness, subtilisins, subtilizing, subtotaling, subtotalled, subtracters, subtracting, subtraction, subtractive, subtrahends, subtreasury, subtropical, supersubtle, thumbtacked, undoubtable, undoubtedly, unobtrusive, doubtfulness, indebtedness, obtusenesses, subtemperate, subtenancies, subterranean, subthreshold, subtlenesses, subtotalling, subtractions, thumbtacking, unobtainable, doubtlessness, obtainability, obtrusiveness, subterraneous, subtilenesses, subtilization, subtreasuries, supersubtlety, unobtrusively, doubtfulnesses, indebtednesses, subterraneanly, subtherapeutic, subtilizations, doubtlessnesses, obtainabilities, obtrusivenesses, subterraneously, supersubtleties, unobtrusiveness, overindebtedness, unobtrusivenesses and overindebtednesses.

Not to mention net abbreviations like "abt".

So the search would have to be modified so it would only search for full words on words less than 3 characters, but also taking into account if you type in multiple words some being more than 3 characters and some being less.

Big job I would've thought....


edit: wot johnsmith said

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JohnSmith
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops

quote:
Originally posted by Spad
The search just hunts out strings doesn't it, not just whole words. So a search for BT would also bring up any thread with the words

Not to mention net abbreviations like "abt".



uh, not it doesn't if you search for mara, you only get mara. if you search for amara, you get only amara. at least in the thread titles only..


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Coup
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Registered: May 2001
Location: England, UK

i think its more than do able whats been said here.

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Swamper
Webmonstah



Registered: Jan 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada

Uhm.. all of the following terms are NOT indexed... as for 3 letter searches being a reality - not any time soon.

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BigDil
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Location: Budapest, Hungary

I think you should include "lol", "ffs", "stfu", etc, as they are frequently used... if this decreases the load on the server at all.


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Coup
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Location: England, UK

quote:
Originally posted by BigDil
I think you should include "lol", "ffs", "stfu", etc, as they are frequently used... if this decreases the load on the server at all.

lmfao, rofl, lmao, haha, hehe, w00t, woot, woohoo, erm..

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BigDil
Hungarian trancEaddict



Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Budapest, Hungary

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
lmfao, rofl, lmao, haha, hehe, w00t, woot, woohoo, erm..


how can we forget "omg" and "omfg".. they're extremly popular as well.


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Mister_Michel
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Lennik - Belgium

How about Pvd, van or Dyk? It's impossible to search for threads about him.


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Ian
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: UK

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
lmfao, rofl, lmao, haha, hehe, w00t, woot, woohoo, erm..


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