I’d recommend that for your first purchase you get CD decks. Many people may disagree but there’s logic behind this. The reason being, even the lowest quality CD players are mixable at a push, with lower end Turntables you’ve got a real problem with the pitch wobbling about making mixing very hard indeed. Cheaper CD decks, while not having all the features won’t have this problem. Besides once you’ve learnt the fundamentals of mixing, if you then decide to get Turntables it won’t take you long to work out how to mix with them if you’ve got experience with the CD players. Plus with CD players you don’t need to worry about carts and styli etc.

As for a mixer, what you want is simply one with gain control, 3 band EQ and you’re away. A replacement cross fader would be useful though. If you have EQ you don’t really need kill switches because if you’re quick with your knobs ( ) you can do exactly the same as you could with kill switches, however some people prefer switches. When doing a bog standard A – B mix you don’t use the kills anyway.

Good luck, and remember this: Practice, Practice, Practice!

remember as a rule of thumb. the shitiest direct driven are better than the best belth driven

my advice would be wtvr u do dont get belt driven. the mixer is good as i own 1 myself

good luck and happy mixin

Thanx for the input. One question: exacty how is a belt driven TT far worse than a direct driven?


Sidenote: I really can't look at CD Decks as these Numark TT's are so damn cheap. I get 4 Numark TT1600's for the same price as a dual CD Deck. Besides, i would really wan't to start building a Vinyl collection as soon as possible. Buying a CD Deck isn't gonna help me with that. Worth noticing is also that i don't mind getting to buy a completely new setup should i find DJ'ing fun enough. So this first setup is really just that. A first newbie setup.

On belt drive turntables, the platter is made to whiz round by a rubber belt that gets moved by a motor. The belt slips, motor isn’t good enough, crummy torque etc, which means the pitch wobbles. I.e. if you set it to –3% for example, it wavers around that mark but isn’t exactly –3%. Direct drive TT’s move the platter directly, lots more torque, less prone to pitch wobble.

hey Mika, my suggestion is that you check out the direct driven models by Numark on www.recordcase.de

everything is in german there but if you have any questions to them just mail them and you'll get a fast answer


I ordered my sennheiser headphones from them, everything went really smooth from the moment I clicked order too the moment I had them in my hands


I just checked and compared the prizes and they are about the same on recordcase and chemical but recordcase have more models and brands

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Originally posted by davedresden i suggest getting the gabriel & dresden prog-a-minute. in 3 easy steps you too could change the face of dance music. batteries not included. - dave

Thanks for the heads up mate. How is it that DJ equipment is half as expensive in germany and the UK as here in sweden? I get 2 TT's there for the same price as i get 1 here in sweden!


Anyways i came across another british site called www.dolphinmusic.com and they sell a package containing 2 Numark TT1625's (Direct Driven TT's!), a Numark DM950 mixer and a pair of HF125 headphones. All for £314 incl shipping. That sounds like pretty good deal to me. Only thing i'm kind of dissapointed about is the mixer (it doesn't have kill switches and only has a 2 Band EQ) but i guess it'll do as newbie stuff.

first of all just to clear out any kind of confusion mika meant dolphinmusic.co.uk and not .com

that package is well worth it's money if your'e not to picky about the mixer (I mean you can always upgrade that later on when you get more money)


ohh and btw, the high prices here in sweden are there because our shitty government has taxes on taxes on taxes for just about anything you can imagine

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Originally posted by davedresden i suggest getting the gabriel & dresden prog-a-minute. in 3 easy steps you too could change the face of dance music. batteries not included. - dave

I stand corrected. www.dolphinmusic.co.uk and nothing else.



I think i'll go with that set and buy a new mixer when and if i find DJing worth my time and money. Now i'll just have to find a way to raise the cash for it.

Mika: I then have 2 questions for you, how do you intend to pay and do you know how much the delivery to swe costs (curious coz I'm thinking of buying a pair of 1650 myself from them)

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Originally posted by davedresden i suggest getting the gabriel & dresden prog-a-minute. in 3 easy steps you too could change the face of dance music. batteries not included. - dave

it says this on the site:

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Orders for anywhere in Europe excluding the UK will be charged a standard £25 delivery fee.

£25 for shipping is perfectly fine for me and i intend to pay with my good ol' stressed out credit card.

like most people would say, DO NOT GET BELT DRIVE, they say go for the technics, however, i got numark tt1650'S. these are the direct drive version of what you were planning. and to tell you the truth, i find these decks useable, i have nothing wrong with them, and they work fine,

As for mixers, dont get the 950, you really should have a 3band eq. this helps with smoother transitions. i sugest looking at some of the behringer mixers, as these are cheap and cheereful.