Yea he does seem to get in on things a little late

that's because he's too busy with his own reworks? interesting observation though... haven't really noticed. i've herad him dropping motorcycle for a while though...

but hey, tiesto is freaking dropping nalin & kane's "open your eyes" like 4 years after oakey did.... they're just recycling choons... nothing wrong with that, in my eyes at least.

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Something un-interesting then might seem much more interesting now.

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Originally posted by deejay2002 I just wrote "copycat" to get your attn but is it just me? After oakenfold, tiesto, etc hammered motorcycle's as the rush comes then PvD jumped on the track.....same thing with Holden's Nothing (93 returning mix) Lately, he's been playing out andain's beautiful things (unplugged mix)??? I mean...dont get me wrong, im a fan of PvD but it seems like he is late on things...

Ok what about the time he's early on things to? POS - Rembember. He was playing that in August 2002. Then every other gimp gets ahold of it in early 2003. Exact same went for GTR - Mistral. He played that in august 2002, and then finally the others get ahold of it in 2003.

What about the whole story with Second Sun. If he hadn't recognised their huge potential they probably wouldn't be where they are today.

And what about Agnelli & Nelson - Nothing. Apart from Matt Hardwick, noone was playing this other than PvD for a very long time. I could go on a on but u get the point. He might have been a little late with a coulple of tracks but 99% of the time he is ahead of everyone, and i mean everyone at spotting new talent.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Ok what about the time he's early on things to? POS - Rembember. He was playing that in August 2002. Then every other gimp gets ahold of it in early 2003. Exact same went for GTR - Mistral. He played that in august 2002, and then finally the others get ahold of it in 2003. What about the whole story with Second Sun. If he hadn't recognised their huge potential they probably wouldn't be where they are today. And what about Agnelli & Nelson - Nothing. Apart from Matt Hardwick, noone was playing this other than PvD for a very long time. I could go on a on but u get the point. He might have been a little late with a coulple of tracks but 99% of the time he is ahead of everyone, and i mean everyone at spotting new talent.

lol mikey mike

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Adding to Mikey, I bring examples:

Nitromethane - Time to Die (Seraque Mix) -- PvD played at Nature 02.08.2002 months before Armin played on ASOT 63 22.05.2003. In fact Armin was surprised by how fast the TA chatters at #armind IDed that track b/c he thought it just came out.

PVD player ATRC in February at ARC in NYC. I dont have time to look at previous tracklists but I would assume that this wasn the first time he played it.

Since ATRC it was first played in mid-december, February is not late at all. And, again, I am assuming he played this before I saw him at Roxy.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike What about the whole story with Second Sun. If he hadn't recognised their huge potential they probably wouldn't be where they are today.

Uh.. and where exactly are they?
They did 1 mediocre tune and then... nothing.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Uh.. and where exactly are they? They did 1 mediocre tune and then... nothing.

? every single one of their releases has been great. i can't wait to hear about a possible album.
From what i've gathered from PVD interviews, Second Sun made an unreleased version of Empire. They sent it to Tiesto, he liked it. They sent it to PVD and he enjoyed it as well. However, it was made using very limited technology, so it sounded very poor, although the tune itself was great. So PVD picked up Second Sun and gave them a bunch of professional equipment to redo Empire. It was a hit, PVD signed them, and now they're on top.
although i have really lost my taste for PVD's own music, he can spot talent from miles away

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a big point that a lot of people are not making is that a dj can only play a tune if they have been given/sent/or managed to obtain it.

if i am correct, with gtr mistral, it was sent out to pvd a lot earlier than when it was sent to armin and tiesto, so course it was going to look like pvd was onto it first.

its the same with loads of other tunes, a lot of the top dj's sort each other out with new material, some may only give out a couple of copies, so unless a tune was distributed at the same time to everyone, there will always be people who get to spin new tunes first.