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occrider
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US Gay Marriage Ban??? wtf

Has anyone else seen this horseshit put forward by Bill Frist?? Goddamn I hate religious conservatives. However, it appears that Bush is hesistant to endorse such an amendment which is surprising.
Hopefully gay republicans will speak out and divide the vote such that this bs won't be passed. At any rate I highly doubt something like this would actually make it through congress.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS....gay/index.html


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CRAZY shit. it's insane the way people are becoming less and less tolerant of others. The neo-cons, on the other hand, want to make gay sex illegal, even if the couple is in the privacy of their own home.


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Actually people are becoming MORE tolerant. I think I saw a poll on CNN or somewhere where the number of people that think gay sex is ok has been ever increasing since the 70's. It's just the few bible belt south states that have idiot representatives who come up with crazy amendments about all sorts of crap. Hehehe even though I think it's retarded, I secretely gloat whenever the US supreme court makes silly decisions such as striking down the saying of the pledge of alliegance in school (because of the God comment), and all sorts of other wierd decisions about hte separation of church and state. WTF comes out of Tennessee anyway except for elvis and homophobe congressmen???


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of alliegance in school (because of the God comment0


I think that there have been some serious proposals to permanently strike the "God" clause in schools.

And nothing else comes out of Tennessee, o wait...AL GORE!!!!!!


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quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Actually people are becoming MORE tolerant. I think I saw a poll on CNN or somewhere where the number of people that think gay sex is ok has been ever increasing since the 70's. It's just the few bible belt south states that have idiot representatives who come up with crazy amendments about all sorts of crap. Hehehe even though I think it's retarded, I secretely gloat whenever the US supreme court makes silly decisions such as striking down the saying of the pledge of alliegance in school (because of the God comment), and all sorts of other wierd decisions about hte separation of church and state. WTF comes out of Tennessee anyway except for elvis and homophobe congressmen???


IMHO, people are being forced to be more tolerant. I doubt much of it is voluntary. People have to accept the fact that this or that is around.

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I think that there have been some serious proposals to permanently strike the "God" clause in schools.

And nothing else comes out of Tennessee, o wait...AL GORE!!!!!!


I'm all for separation of church and state, but things like that are just silly. What's next ... removing the in god we trust from the currency?


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I'm all for separation of church and state, but things like that are just silly. What's next ... removing the in god we trust from the currency?


True. Again, this whole notion of being "politically correct".


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No, no, guys, the word "God" is still required in schools.

Remember how a guy from Cali tried to challenge that, and then everybody -- like 99% of the people and the unanimous Congress -- started yelling at him and making threats against him.

Back to the topic: All these Southern Bible-beltists are retarded, but they wield enormous power in this country in terms of social policies. The US is different from Canada, Europe, Australia, and other democracies. Our country is rooted in Puritanic traditions and it's solidly Christian in its government, policies, and voting base (despite all the ado about "diversity", "melting pot", etc.)

As a matter of fact, Canada is more of a melting pot than America. They have more immigrants there, and there's little or no debate about "national character" or how those immigrants "fit into" something "one" and "patriotic."


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True. Again, this whole notion of being "politically correct".


Perhaps they should change the phrase to "in nothing deemed offensive we trust"


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Perhaps they should change the phrase to "in nothing deemed offensive we trust"


hahaha.....watch them do it. I swear, one day it might happen.


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Perhaps they should change the phrase to "in nothing deemed offensive we trust"


LOL HAHA

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It is very ironic that the US, whic claims to have literally invented civil rights, remains so backward and bigoted still, compared to countries that never even had "civil rights revolutions" or other dramatic "freedom" events -- and which are, paradoxically, freer and more tolerant.

Consider the example of prostitution.
Prostitution is legal everywhere except the US and the Muslim world.

It's legal in Europe, Latin America, Canada, Australia, Mexico, democratized Asian countries, ... But not in the #1 democracy in the world.
How's that for separation of church and state?


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