okay here's another one of thoose exploration threads again

my problem is that I suck on creating percussions and drums...I mean I can do a fairly good kick...lay it down in a 4/4 beat but that's about all good I can do with it and I've also noticed that others here in the forum has the same problem


so just type down any good advices you have for creating drums and perc, can be everything from getting that perfect kick to laying down the hihats perfect or whatever


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one thing I use to do with my kicksound is to layer like one kick with a little brighter and more distinct sound together with a deeper kick...that way you can get a bigger range on the kicksound if you know what I mean

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Originally posted by davedresden i suggest getting the gabriel & dresden prog-a-minute. in 3 easy steps you too could change the face of dance music. batteries not included. - dave

Ooh, percs, my favourite subject

I usually use a shuffled breakbeat loop (take away the bass) on the background, gives a nice touch. I also tend to use varying patterns of closed hihats with subtle clicks and/or bongos...

Uh... that's not much of an advice, is it? It's much harder talking about it than actually doing it...

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I first start with the kick. Usually I use two or more kicks, just like Vizay said: one dry kick to make it punchy and one deeper one to make it rock.

Then I just keep adding stuff, like closed hihats, open hihats, bongos, congas, etc, until I got the sound I want. Just try to give every instrument another rhythm, that will make it sound more richer.

Another thing you can do is sample your favorite track and add it to your mix. I usually sample the beginning of tracks, which contain only percussion and no basses. Mix this with some of your own percussion and you get a pretty professional sounding result in no time.

I also think it depends on what program u use. Most of the time I start with the percussion in Fruityloops, because you can easily add stuff there. Then I export the loop to Cubase or Logic, or I rebuild everything there and add synths, basslines etc...

Hope this helps?

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A Great idea, i really hope this thread fills up and teaches me a trick or two

tezz

I Also suck at percussion ...

Well.. I could make some percussion rex loops if anyone is interested...

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Mr.Mystery that sounds like an excelent idea

well for some more things....I've had a friend over yesterday and we co-produced a little....I've suddenly realized that you should not be afraid to use many different percussion-sounds...

I mean right now we have 4 redrums up and we will probably need a fifth :P

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Originally posted by davedresden i suggest getting the gabriel & dresden prog-a-minute. in 3 easy steps you too could change the face of dance music. batteries not included. - dave

Well i learn quickly , if i do i will create sum stuff too if im not too occupied people .

tezz

Ok, here's a top little pluggin Scuzz 6

And this is what it can do 2 a hat loop

Hat loop dry

Now 2 with the Scuzz on it

Hat Scuzz 1

Hat Scuzz 2


Hope this is of help

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thx m8... cool plugin

It sure is!!!

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another important thing to think of when laying down the percussions is to make shure you never have any dead moments...

okay so you didn't quite get what I mean...well as an example...the kick hits every 4:th beat...and then maybe a cymbal every 4:th offbeat...then maybe a ride on the same beats as the kick...

that's a perfectly fine basic setup of percs but it wont sound very spacey and it will defenetly NOT fill the song enough....

what I mean with dead moments is the beats between every 4:th beat and offbeat, try and fill those dead spaces...


shakers and extremly cutoff closed cymbals at fast speeds usually works this problem out


this might have been a bit weird and hard to understand but I hope you got it

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Originally posted by davedresden i suggest getting the gabriel & dresden prog-a-minute. in 3 easy steps you too could change the face of dance music. batteries not included. - dave

I personally think pauses or little silences in your beats can really add some cool effect. Maybe this isn't really something for real trance songs, but if you produce some more progressive tracks, these pauses can really make the track groove.

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