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rizo
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Registered: Apr 2003
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bush finally did something right

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...israel_usa_dc_5

we should of done this a long time ago, and should keep reducing if not stoping complete funding of israel as well as palastine

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Viber
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mother******!!,he can erase helf of asia and we cant protect 0urselfs from orginazations that are much closer??!

and rizen,the Po dont get the big money from the Us but from many many arab nations unlike israel that depands on that money

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DaveSZ
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Registered: Jan 2003
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Originally posted by Viber
mother******!!,he can erase helf of asia and we cant protect 0urselfs from orginazations that are much closer??!

and rizen,the Po dont get the big money from the Us but from many many arab nations unlike israel that depands on that money



Stop the land grab of Palestinian land and we give you your money.

How hard is that?

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Stop the land grab of Palestinian land and we give you your money.

How hard is that?



stop terror and get all the leaders killed and build the PO to a decent government and we will stop the grabing

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That makes me a bit angry. Why are we giving Israel 9 billion dollars when we have people living in the streets, and schools falling apart etc in some parts of the US? Pathetic.


i think that the US governments had reasons for supporting us until this point and besides how much money bush have spended on catching Osama and the hussains? at least this money is for a better thing for peoples that is in much greater risk and the israeli econemy is in the toilete right now so its not all for the intifada

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and another thing: bush is doing it just becuse he need to send more troops to iraq and more troops=more money,plus he needs to give some more money for his iraq and afganistan fightings so he will be able to use it as a propeganda for his nxt elections,showing the american people that they are now safe from terror thanx to him even though there"s still terror org. working in the world

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DaveSZ
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Originally posted by Viber
stop terror and get all the leaders killed and build the PO to a decent government and we will stop the grabing



So you admit that it is a land grab then? It's quite obvious to most that it's not all about "security." That's just a nice little euphemism.


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i think that the US governments had reasons for supporting us until this point and besides how much money bush have spended on catching Osama and the hussains? at least this money is for a better thing for peoples that is in much greater risk and the israeli econemy is in the toilete right now so its not all for the intifada



I take back the second part as I misunderstood the article a bit when I wrote that.

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So you admit that it is a land grab then? It's quite obvious to most that it's not all about "security." That's just a nice little euphemism.


sure its land grabing,even sharon said it,but its very justified for my opinion and its all about security even the big settelments are helping for the israeli security(according to intel. and researches)

do you really think that any israeli wants to be in a hot desert that is full with people who wants to shoot you? i know i dont

every israeli including the entire israeli government want peace,but real peace not "oslo" peace

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rizo
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Originally posted by Viber
mother******!!,he can erase helf of asia and we cant protect 0urselfs from orginazations that are much closer??!

and rizen,the Po dont get the big money from the Us but from many many arab nations unlike israel that depands on that money
yeah i know, po gets millions, israel gets about over a billion.

imo the land grabbing doesnt help but increases the attacks, where do you think those people go after their home is taken or bulldozed. they end up getting angry as fuck, even joining terrorist organizations, then blow up israelis. i know i would, seeing how rocks dont work against tanks. its just one big continuous cycle

btw this gesture made me lol

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hehe that pic made me laugh too.


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yeah i know, po gets millions, israel gets about over a billion.

imo the land grabbing doesnt help but increases the attacks, where do you think those people go after their home is taken or bulldozed. they end up getting angry as fuck, even joining terrorist organizations, then blow up israelis. i know i would, seeing how rocks dont work against tanks. its just one big continuous cycle


that is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
not true,every kid knows that the terrorists attacks are not about despret people,revange or even settelments,as a top fatah leader said:"every hit on the zionist enemy or on the Us bring us closer to our target ,the free palastine with jerusalem and tel-aviv"
its a fact that there were suicide who came from rich famlies,its a fact that most suicide boombers didnt get their home demolished before their acts and if its not enough: if you are saying that suicide boombers are becuse of the Idf prresuring them you are mistakin cuz there were suicide boombing in the Shimon Peres administration in 96,if you dont know who he is:shimon peres is one of the most leftist people in israel and he was the no" 2 man responseble for oslo,there was no miletry oppersions beck then and the pal" still continued attacked israel

its about time that people like you will freakin understand that the pal" suicide boombings is about getting Tel-aviv,haifa and other places that belong to israel,and of course - jerusalem -the whole of it ,and plus suicide boombers are mentally ill according to pal" shrinks,and people like that dont supose to have boombs around them

terror is not about getting peace its about getting israel

BTW:if you dont agree with the things above then dont argue with me,you should argue with the terror org. leaders who gave thoes statements,the israeli Intel.(one of the best in the world) and with tapes of the suicide boombers themselfs
everything i say is facts,i still have some respect for the palastinians and i beilieve the leaders and the boombers whene they give their statements about their actions,its not my job to twist their reason for suicide


anyway Milan Vs Ajax is more important right now
see ya later

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Originally posted by Viber
sure its land grabing,even sharon said it,but its very justified for my opinion and its all about security even the big settelments are helping for the israeli security(according to intel. and researches)

do you really think that any israeli wants to be in a hot desert that is full with people who wants to shoot you? i know i dont

every israeli including the entire israeli government want peace,but real peace not "oslo" peace


If I were a Palestinian, Id be pissed heaving Isreal LAND grabbing and Land Grabbing until we stay with a little poop of land. Dont get mad at me, but thats my opinion. There was no Israel before, and this country ( countries ) gave you a pieace of land for all of you to settle, now you want more?!?! .. Id be mad really.


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.. - On a sidenote. I had a huge group of friends who went to this trip in Israel, where they went to concentration camps and such.. and at the end they ended up in Israel... they came back saying that theres no safer place then Israel, that everybody has guns, that the malls are so safe, everybody feels safe. Even israeli friends who live here say all the time that its soo safe, and they just cant wait to join the Israeli Army. But I just dont understand that with all this suicide bombings, Isralies ( the ones I know ) keep saying its safe, and thats all of them that I know.. soo.. if its so safe, why they complaining then? I just dont get them!!!!!.. do you guys, isralie posters, believe its safe too, or do you guys admit that its a very vulnerable, scary place to live in now?


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