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A_M_8
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Registered: May 2003
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Exclamation For Once And For All!

Ok... i know there have been MANY threads about this and although they have the same idea, they always get into a different topic or they get filled with simple or useless responses. I am getting a PAIR (not dual) of CD digital Turntables and a lot of new ones have come/are comig out. Ignoring the price values, help me decide which ones to get (When I say ignoring the price values I dont mean that I am willing to pay an extra $300 dollars just cuz they have "cooler lights" or some stupid excuse... but I am however, willing to consider the difference for a significant advantage). If you have used 2 or more of this list please help me by defining the diferences (if there are any important ones) and advantages/disadvantages of each. Time is also a factor cuz i dont want to wait too long (around christams i think ill get'em)... Oh and by the way, I am definetley buying CD players so please avoid the "Keep it Vinyl comments ) Thanks.

Pioneer CDJ-800
Pioneer CDJ-1000
Pioneer CDJ-1000MK2
Denon-S5000
Denon-S3000
* Also Numark's future turntable & Technics future digital tt*
*Although I dont know if they are worth the wait... like I
said above I dont want to wait TOOO long*

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Zack Roth
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ha, my search for the perfect cd setup just ended last week.
a short version of a long story...
I started out with dual cd decks...Pioneer CMX3000. Loved them. They did everything I wanted them to do, an outstanding buy. They unfortunately broke on me. I got in touch with the guy I bought them from and he agreed to take them back, and give me credit on something else. (I'll get back to this)
So I'm in the city one day, and I see this store on Canal Street is selling the Denon s5000 really cheap. Without thinking, I bought one right away. It's a very cool machine to play around with, but I ended up selling it, because it's essentially a toy. The moving platter is cool at first, but when you really get down to it, why the hell do you need a moving platter? Cd players should be cd players, not exactly like TT's. It was a very confusing machine, and the thing that really annoyed me was the supposed 'instant start' that is totally does not have. When you hit play on a Pioneer deck, it starts instantaneously. The Denon deck took a a fraction of a second to start, cause of the damn platter that needs to start. Like when you hit play on a TT, there's that small drag time it takes to get the record up to speed. same with the Denon deck. Another thins that was just retarded was the pitch controls. The Denon deck's best pitch range was .05 +/- 4% which is not very good. So, I sold it. It was just a hassle all around. Too many buttons, too many useless functions, and that instant start thing was unforgivable.
Back to my credit with the Pioneer guy. Without even testing one out, I just paid the difference and got a CDJ1000MK2. It arrived, and I fell in love with it. Very simple layout, with tons of usefull functions. I didn't have to study the instruction manual to figure out how to use it. Scratch mode is amazing, looping, stored cue points, everything. It's an amazing machine, not some stupid DJ toy. The pitch range is fuckign unreal. .02 at 6%, and then .05 at 10, and then 16% and then total control at 100%
With the money I got for my Denon and a little I saved up, I started looking for another deck. I looked at the CDJ800, the 1000, and the Numark one. Straight up, the Numark one is gay. Another toy compared to the Pioneer's. It's pitch range was awful, it looked ugly, it was just a gay machine.
The 800 I liked a LOT. Lot's of cool functions, but it's lack of hot cues and stepped pitch change made me go with the 1000. Which brings me tt the 1000. If I had to recomend one of the decks you listed, I'd definitely say go with the 1000. They're pretty much identical to the MK2, save for some minor cosmetic differences, and a cue marker, it's the same damn machine. I essentially paid $1000 for my MK2, and got my 1000 for $799 at Guitar Center. For $200 less, I'd definitely suggest the 1000. Feature for feauture, and factoring in price, and feel, the 1000 comes out on top by a longshot.
if I had to rank the ones that you listed that I owned or tested out, it would be
Pioneer CDJ1000
Pioneer CDJ1000MK2
Pioneer CDJ800
Denon S5000





gay ass Numark CND

Good luck!

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A_M_8
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Location: San Salvador/ Miami/ Boston

thanx zizack!... thats the exact type of replies I was looking for... Thanks a lot man.... Keep'em Coming please!!!!!!!!


quote:
Originally posted by zizack
gay ass Numark CND

Good luck!


By the way, are we talking about the same one? The one Im talking about isn't out yet (I think). It looks like a Real numark TT and even has a "real size vinyl" on top... there's a thread about it in here but i couldnt fond the link.... whatever....Thanks again!

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Zack Roth
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quote:
Originally posted by A_M_8
thanx zizack!... thats the exact type of replies I was looking for... Thanks a lot man.... Keep'em Coming please!!!!!!!!




By the way, are we talking about the same one? The one Im talking about isn't out yet (I think). It looks like a Real numark TT and even has a "real size vinyl" on top... there's a thread about it in here but i couldnt fond the link.... whatever....Thanks again!


ahhh, my bad. I thought you were talking about their tabletop cd player that came out last year. That new thing I haven't tried. But again, I don't know why these companies insist on trying to imitate TT's. Cd players are not turntables, stop trying to make them like that. Plus, I think the whole concept of a fake record mounted to a fake turntable is just corny. Another toy IMO.

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TwiloNYC
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Location: NY, NY

Man, I had no idea the Denons had such a bad delay w/ instant start! Nice reivew man. What happend to your CMX3000 exactly? I own one of those bad boys too.

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Zack Roth
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quote:
Originally posted by TwiloNYC
Man, I had no idea the Denons had such a bad delay w/ instant start! Nice reivew man. What happend to your CMX3000 exactly? I own one of those bad boys too.


eh, I'm not sure actually. On a very rare occassion the buttons on the whole left side of the decks would just freeze and not work. It happened very seldomly, but I wasn't gonna keep them and have them get worse.

yeah, about the Denon's, you'd think they would have instant start-up, or maybe an option to tun the platter off and just use them like regular cd decks. I couldn't find it though.

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ludeboy12
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ugh my denon dns-5000 starts up like instantly so i dunno what u kids are talking about....

as for turning off the platter im not really sure as why you would even want to do that....i dunno i use my 5000 like its one of my TTs and i constantly touch the platter and souch as i match the beats. Maybe thats just me though....

if im not mistaking the denon has way more features than the pioneer too....thats why i got mine....i tried the cdj1000 and it really didnt do it for me....

but hey whatever floats ur boat....

thats just my two cents...


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