LOL I found this story to be somewhat funny

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MPs to vote on bill to protect gays, lesbians from hate speech Last Updated Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:58:20 OTTAWA - Members of Parliament will vote Wednesday on a bill to extend hate speech legislation to protect gays and lesbians. Supporters of Bill C-250 want to add sexual orientation to the list of groups protected under the Criminal Code. The code already makes it illegal to incite hatred against an identifiable group based on colour, race, religion or ethnicity. "The message that is sent out by the failure to include gay and lesbian people in hate propaganda legislation is that our lives aren't as valuable," said NDP MP Svend Robinson, author of the bill. "If we're going to say no to the promotion of hatred and violence based on religion, colour, race and ethnic origin, surely we should say that gay bashing and promotion of hatred and violence against gay and lesbian people is just as unacceptable." Opponents of the bill say the legislation would stifle free speech, particularly among religious groups. Some worry that passages in the Bible condemning homosexuality could be declared hate literature. "We've seen through the courts that when religious freedom comes up against gay rights, that in fact religious freedom intends to be more often than not the loser in those particular cases," said Derek Rogusky, of the group Focus on the Family. Supporters of the bill say fears about censorship are groundless and that C-250 isn't meant to infringe on anyone's freedom of religion. On Tuesday, a Canadian Alliance motion asking MPs to reaffirm the heterosexual definition of marriage was defeated by a vote of 137 to 132.

This is partially why I'm a hardcore proponent of free speech, whatever the content.

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I wonder what Bush's reaction will be to this

this is stupid, plain and simple.

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Sometimes sensitivity gets a little out of control.

And Canada was doing so well there for a while.

sigh

MrS

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i dont remember the bible saying anything about condemning homosexuality. although i havnt touched that propaganda book since i was 12, someone want to post the passages?

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel And Canada was doing so well there for a while.

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Originally posted by rizen i dont remember the bible saying anything about condemning homosexuality. although i havnt touched that propaganda book since i was 12, someone want to post the passages?

Neither did I, but I guess the bible thumpers would know better than us right? Hehe they must have a good reason to be scared I suppose.

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Originally posted by rizen i dont remember the bible saying anything about condemning homosexuality. although i havnt touched that propaganda book since i was 12, someone want to post the passages?

I think it varies depending on the "version" of the bible you read. A lot of the new evangelicals use a newer bible than the King james version which is different (and they say more accurate) than the King James or the sandard catholic one. Their bible probably says it is wrong.

Can anyone say "revisionist history"?

MrS

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Originally posted by occrider Neither did I, but I guess the bible thumpers would know better than us right? Hehe they must have a good reason to be scared I suppose.

Leviticus 18:22 (old testament)

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Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; It is abomination."

Leviticus 20:13

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If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them

though in judiasims defense (not that i am religious) "Abomination" (TO'EBAH) is a technical cultic term for what is ritually unclean, such as mixed cloth, pork, and intercourse with menstruating women. It's not about a moral or ethical issue.

Romans 1:26,27 (new testament)

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Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

i wouldnt call myself a bible thumper, more along the lines of a google thumper.

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Ilove my country

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i take back that canada - land of the free thing i said a couple days ago

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Well in all fairness to Canada, I seriously doubt that they would ever actually make the bible illegal, that would simply be ludicrous. However, I strongly disagree with their hate speech legislation. When the government begins to define what you can and cannot say you start traversing a slippery slope indeed.

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Last edited by occrider on Sep-18-2003 at 06:07

What is the point of freedom of speech when religion opposes freedom of thought?

I doubt that making the bible illegal will accomplish anything, it is a part of our history and culture. Places of worship were the forcible brainwashing of naive youth and the weak of mind should be made illegal.