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Psionic
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Christopher Columbus: Hero or Mass Murderer

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Old Post Oct-13-2003 14:04  Israel
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Yoepus
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mass murderer because he brought the flu or...?

I think all will agree though he was an explorer, even if he was a ill-begotten mass murder.

Old Post Oct-13-2003 14:37  Israel
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Psionic
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mass murderer because he brought the flu or...?

I think all will agree though he was an explorer, even if he was a ill-begotten mass murder.



Mass murder because he and his men slaughtered several thousand Hispaniolans cuz they didn't bring him gold. The thing is Hispaniola didn't have any gold on the island.

Old Post Oct-13-2003 14:53  Israel
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LiquidX
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- Ok guys, Im surprised on how little you guys know about Christopher Colombus. He is an explorer, and a genuine mariner. He did not do any mass murder, wherever you got that, let me know please. Instead, he became friends with the indians, and got along with them, traded and such. But then after, when he went back to spain, and brought gold, guess what.. the Queen Isabell sent more man, and had man on charge of Christopher.. very wack from her side, but yeah, she sent other guys to rule over and take over the lands that Colombus had discover, and THEY were the assholes.. they were even assholes with christopher colombus.. and they credited Americo Vespucio ( Hence name America ).. for discovering the Americas.. something that Colombus knew and would have done ( he only got to the Bahamas, caribbean islands, cuba but not mainland.. although he wanted, they didnt let him nor believe him ).. anyways, they credited Americo Vespucio for such, but later on, years after, after Colombus died, they changed their minds and gave the credit of him discovering America.. but no, it wasent Christopher Colombus ( Cristobal Colon ).. who did the murders, it was the assholes, ambitious son of their mothers who did all the damage afterwards.... so .. read some more history!


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LiquidX
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Mass murder because he and his men slaughtered several thousand Hispaniolans cuz they didn't bring him gold. The thing is Hispaniola didn't have any gold on the island.


Once again.. it was the other assholes who Isabell Sent to rule over, both Christopher and the lands..


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I don't get off for columbus day . But with respect to the topic at hand, I can think of far worse examples of European exploration/colonialism.


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I don't get off for columbus day . But with respect to the topic at hand, I can think of far worse examples of European exploration/colonialism.


werd.

The details that LiquidX mentioned do help clarify some of the misconcpetions...


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rizo
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well being half italian and mexican... both. his a hero, and mass murderer

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rizo
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quote:
Originally posted by LiquidX
- Ok guys, Im surprised on how little you guys know about Christopher Colombus. He is an explorer, and a genuine mariner. He did not do any mass murder, ...
but he discovered america so he gets the blame

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He is a historical figure of little or no significance. Categorizing him as a hero is ludicrous, and there is no verifiable evidence to suggest that he's directly responsible for any "mass murder." So, the answer is neither.

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quote:
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He is a historical figure of little or no significance. Categorizing him as a hero is ludicrous, and there is no verifiable evidence to suggest that he's directly responsible for any "mass murder." So, the answer is neither.
try telling that to some italian american communities

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Yoepus
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why little or no historical significane?

After all he organized, and charted the first Spanish expedition to the new world - releasing the future of European colonial efforts in the Americas.

Old Post Oct-14-2003 21:44  Israel
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