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Durafei
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: San Francisco, California
Andain - Beautiful Things - Public performance prohibited

What does it mean "Public Performance Prohibited" on a vinyl?

My friend just got a copy of Andain - Beautiful Things (Black Hole recordings) off onlydjs.com and it says on the cover that Public performance of this track is prohibited... The same is also the case with Cor Fijneman - Venus (also off black hole recordings)

I thought that when you buy a vinyl you buy the rights to spin it as well. no ?


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Ortemy
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Registered: Dec 2002
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^Yeah that's what ur friend thought too when he was buying that vinyl from the online store. I am kinda confused now, I was always thinking of buying a record as of paying certain copyright fee to the label and to the artist for the right to play it publically....


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auujay
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Cleveland

While I do not know the answer to the first question (if the new line on the Blackhole records is giving you different rights then other recrods).
However the point that the second poster brings up is not exactly how it works. What happens is you buy the record. Horah for you, it is no different from getting a CD (singlle or album) except a lot bigger . Now when you buy your music you have it and you can listen to it and play it for friends but NOT IN PUBLIC. However if you take that same record to a bar/club that has paid a licencing fee to have the "public performance" of recorded music then you can play the same record you bought. It comes down to the fact that the club owner is paying for the right for playing it in public, you are not by simply buying a 10 dollar record.
I have no idea how this is affected by the original comment, though maybe Blackhole is worried that so many people do not understand that simply because they bought the record they cannot play it pulicly (without what I said before). Maybe this is Blackhole's solution, I have no idea.


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Rememberence_
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Registered: Oct 2002
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blimey I've never heard of that before! But really, who's going to enforce such a rule? I wonder why it's applied to Venus and Beautiful Things.. but not others.. I guess many other labels welcome the promotion that they get from DJs spinning their releases. hmm weird.


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If you ask me, for vinyls, the only ones buying them are djs, so the label should be expecting them to be played publicly. And they have nothing to loose, if anything its promotion because another dj might here the track at the club, like it and want to play it, and then go out and buy it.
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Luke Terry
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Registered: Oct 2001
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Cool

you are entitled to, it's just places where you play have to have licences to play music, etc.

thats all its for, it aint stopping you personally.


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seven.dj
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Boston, Massachusetts

ha, i'd love to see the day to see some idiot playin vengaboys records on his dad's 40 year old record player for his "house party" that he charged 5 dollars a head for cover. See if the RIAA is gonna go bustin down his door and suin his ass.

Seems like the only people that care are the ones that are in this game for profit.

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There have been lots of toppics about this before. It's pretty simple actually. If you buy a record, you buy the copyrights of the record for 1 person (=you). If you want to play the record in a club, the club needs to pay the copyrights for all the people in that club. The money has to be paid to the RIAA(yes, the evil one).


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quote:
Originally posted by Tiger777
There have been lots of toppics about this before. It's pretty simple actually. If you buy a record, you buy the copyrights of the record for 1 person (=you). If you want to play the record in a club, the club needs to pay the copyrights for all the people in that club. The money has to be paid to the RIAA(yes, the evil one).


What about import records?

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fuck em.
just play the record when you wanna play it where you wanna play it.
enjoy it and make everyone else enjoy it.

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Originally posted by Vert
What about import records?

es

If you live in the US, you have to pay to the RIAA. Every country has it's organisation (for belgium eg, it's SABAM (yeah, they're as evil as the RIAA ))


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teo
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ive seen this for the first time too...i guess its black hole's shit..just spin the fucking record and get ur crowd excited!


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