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Trancewave
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Your 99c per iTunes download belong to the RIAA

Interesting article. Despite itunes being so successful, Apple virtually makes no money from their service and neither do the artists. Most of the money goes straight back to the RIAA.

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Your 99c per iTunes download belong to the RIAA
Posted by Sean Byrne on 09 November 2003 - 02:14 - Source: The Register


Quakester2000, GristyMcFisty and sorti all used our news submit to tell us that Despite Apple's legal download service being so successful and serving over 80% of the market on legal music downloads, Apple in fact makes no revenue from their online download service. Even though the tracks are digitally encoded online without any CD-replication costs, CD delivery costs and shops to run apart from the iTunes store itself the tracks are still very severely over priced by the music industry. Nearly all of the 99 cent one pays for an Apple iTunes download goes straight to the copyright holders. The small portion that Apple gets just barely covers the iTunes hosting and running costs, the credit card company cost per transaction as well as the iTunes webstore & client software development.


Apple would like to break even or make a little profit from their iTunes service, but instead have to rely on its sale of hardware accessories such as the iPod. Unfortunately, Apple is also forced to protect their tracks and software with DRM restrictions in order for the labels to allow Apple to deliver their music.

Wasn't the Internet, this weightless kingdom of bits and bytes, supposed to make distribution costs just vanish? Apparently not.

At an Apple financial analyst conference on Wednesday CEO Steve Jobs admitted that Apple makes no revenue from the online download service, the iTunes Music Store, that he launched in April. As iTMS is the leading download service, with 80 per cent market share (or so Jobs claimed), where's your 99 cents per song going?

Well, although it costs nothing for the record industry pigopolists, this small ragged army, to make a digital version of one of its hoardings available to hear, somebody must pay. It costs Apple real dollars to provide the hosting service that delivers that digital file to you, and to write the sophisticated software that delivers it. Meanwhile, almost all the cash is flowing back to the copyright holders. Who, when you last looked, were a dinosaur oligopoly of five record labels, desperately seeking a way to preserve their copyright cartel into a new century. They were down, and they were out: but Steve Jobs rode to their rescue.

"Most of the money goes to the music companies," admitted Jobs.

"We would like to break even/make a little bit of money but it's not a money maker," he said, candidly.

So now we have it on record: the music store is a loss leader. Jobs said Apple would pay its dues to the RIAA, then seek to make money where it could, from its line of hardware accessories. When the conversation turned to rivals such as eTunes and Napster, Jobs said: "They don't make iPods, so they don't have a related business where they do [make money]".

Read the full story here.





We previously reported on what appears like Apple ripping off the musicians , but apparently Apple ends up having to pay out for all the running costs and the music industry are making a fortune from their 65% cut. All the music industry has to do is provide Apple the tracks and even after paying the artists their 10% or so cut; they still get over a 50% cut in what a consumer pays on an iTunes song with very little work involved!



Discuss about online music services and file sharing on our Music Downloads, P2P & Legal Issues Forum.





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*sends job application to RIAA*

damn they have got to be some rich mofo's.

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its the way of "the man" aka RIAA aka big brother

apple was smart to offer cheap mp3s, what would the general public use an ipod for if RIAA stopped or made it too trouble some for the lay person to obtain mp3s.


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its the way of "the man" aka RIAA aka big brother

apple was smart to offer cheap mp3s, what would the general public use an ipod for if RIAA stopped or made it too trouble some for the lay person to obtain mp3s.


Good point. I had no idea that Apple makes no revenue from their service. Probably explains why their ipod is so damn expensive.

Damn mofos from the RIAA sucking money out of us once again, (well not us in particular )

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*sends job application to RIAA*

damn they have got to be some rich mofo's.




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Damn mofos from the RIAA sucking money out of us once again, (well not us in particular )

Montie Burns would be proud of the RIAA turning the noble persuit of music into greedy twisted pimp like industry. Btw you should try their animal slurrie its quite good


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Keep your enemies close and giving you paychecks is how i like to think of it.

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Good point. I had no idea that Apple makes no revenue from their service. Probably explains why their ipod is so damn expensive.

Damn mofos from the RIAA sucking money out of us once again, (well not us in particular )


The iPod is expensive because it's main components are not cheap. The small profile hard drives are abotu twice as much as an average notebook drive and they also use a polymer battery (the whole structure of the iPod is the actual battery) which is also not cheap.

You also have to add into the mix that Apple always prices their hardware high because that is where their profit margins are. They don't charge much for most of the software they do actually charge for and software like iTunes they get absolutely nothing for.

But yes, the iPod is expensive, but as with everything Apple sells it is marketed primarily to their user base which looks at Apple products the same way BMW owners look at their cars.

The RIAA is a trade lobby, not a corporate entity. The people who are making the lion's share of the money are the labels who are all members of the RIAA. Apple probably makes about the same as any music distributor would selling cd's except they do not have the overhead of needing physical storage space for the product. Apple is making more money out of this deal than you might think. I am sure of it. Steve Jobs is a shrewd businessman. He did after all, decide to keep Pixar a contractor for Disney instead of opting for the big chunk of money up front to sell the whole shebang to the rat. And look at how well that came out.

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