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patticus
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: vancouver, bc
Worm Popper quick cuts / my tape

a couple yall TAs asked me for the tape i been mentioning recently... i mailed a couple ppl, like special k

recent feedback, its not great, kind of an example of newbie mixing, but i mean the levels are ok the tracks are good and no clashing.

if you'd like a copy / tracklist, just email me or somethin and i'll be glad to make one for you. or copy another mix which im doin soon.


special k mentioned "quick cuts" using 16 beats mix-outs (i think?) instead of fading in and fading out.
i thought you were supposed to draw out the mix as long as possible, slooooowly fading in/out bass / treble, but i guess i was wrong?

some input on this please.
he said all my mixes sound the same, which i guess they kinda do
but i didnt want to do abrupt "album-type" mixing, yknow like magik 6.

so yes some input please on any of the two issues i mentioned...


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djdawn
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I'm not really using "quick cuts" as just having the records together for 16 beats, but I don't fade in slowly, on most occasions. Don't know if you listened to one of my mixes, but I usually bring in the new record quickly when a new bar starts (?) (I mean at the beginning of a new 32 beat cycle). I go out differently, depends on the tracks. When the new one has a certain point where melody starts, I will fade out quickly at that point.
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i thought you were supposed to draw out the mix as long as possible, slooooowly fading in/out bass / treble

you're not supposed to do anything. Find your own style. Try everything you can think of. Keep what you like/ what you're good at. Dump the rest!


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patticus
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thanks dj dawn, i'll have to hear one of your mixes soon.


"when the new one has a certain point where melody starts, I will fade out quickly at that point"
yah thats basic i have that down, im slowly fading in to that point using no bass, and the trim...
you fade in the intro and when the song "starts" that's when you let it take over.
i didnt think it was really fading in that slow, just more subtle transitions.. but special k thought otherwise, maybe i need more feedback

cuz aside from the quick cuts, "braking" and slamming the fader (not for tapes, heh), and these slow "fadeins" which i thought were warren-esque (lol)

geez i dunno what else to do. new mixer perhaps?


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Old Post Jul-17-2001 22:36  Canada
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patticus
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my favorite thing to do is have the records REALLY overlap, like the vocals for mekka - diamondback over the intro for lustral - everytime (mike koglin)

or the sonorous - glass garden (speed mix) vocals over the riva - stringer intro.

they stretch out and blend beautifully, imho


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skywarp
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Hmm, couldn't you just post sound snippets of the mixes in question ... 'coz most of the time when you name tracks like that I have no clue what you're talking about.


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patticus
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sorry dude, the best i could do is put those specifically on a tape and mail to you... canada and all


but i have no way of posting samples at all

or i could give you track times and beats (like breakdown, etc.)


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Old Post Jul-18-2001 08:04  Canada
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djdawn
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how can you not be able to make samples when you can record to tape? Just record to your PC, cut, compress, upload, done...

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patticus
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dude, my comp is on a different floor from my decks / mixer / tape deck... not an option

unless you tell me how i can record to comp from a tape boombox?


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I wouldn't mind hearing some of your stuff. And I have to agree with DJDAWN....you're not "supposed" to do anything in particular. Nice long overrides are great but you can only do that with some mixes. You've just gotta find what works with each mix. A lot of trial & error. Every mix is different. There's "technical" mixing and "artistic" mixing and I'd have to say that neither one is "better" than the other. Technical mixing is more or less counting your way through a mix, where as artistic mixing is more or less feeling your way through a mix. Kind of hard to explain but you'll see that some mixes seem to come naturally as others seem like you have to work at it.

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patticus
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Registered: Apr 2001
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thanx johnny
i'll keep workin at it

send you a tape soon..


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