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Psygnosis
Obliterate then Stabilize



Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Sydney
Your opinion??

Ok i've already posted about this situation in the Chill Out forum, but want to know what the rest of the people think is right in this situation.


Firstly look at this page and the prices and stuff

http://www.ihug.com.au/products/connection/dial-in.html

Now about 2 weeks ago or something i recieved a bill saying that i owe them 200 dollars for over use on the hours.

Now when i connected with them after i cancelled it a while ago i said "connect me back on the 25 dollar plan". Now on that page there are only 3 account types, well 3 as i can see.

this is the type i thought that i was being signed up to.

Account Type Fee Hours downloads
Get ihug $24.95 ALL INCLUSIVE ALL INCLUSIVE N/A 10 10MB

Now for this month i had been charged only 23.95, yes 1 dollar less and they said the unlimited scheme didn't apply to me anymore. NOW a 23.95 account does not exist and i never said i wanted it, yet they go i did bla bla bla...

They said that my account only allowed 200 hours only and i went to 280, which is pretty funny cause i'm not even allowed to use that much but aside from that, the bill of $200 made me laugh even more where on the website it clearly says "No more huge monthly bills for using additional hours - your bills are capped at a maximum of $39.95 per month no matter how many hours you use!"

now i told them about this, and they said "it doesn't apply to your account", now if i was with the account which i was paying 14 or 18 bucks a month then it would apply, silly huh?

wtf do i do...i keep calling them and they ramble on the same shit over and over.


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Joshva
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Sydney

Yeh ihug are absolutely crap. We have them on the unlimited plan you mentioned. They are sooo bad. The bandwidth is terrible. On a 56k modem we should be able to get 5k or a little more. I am normally on 600bytes a second. That is garbage.

I don't know what to do in your situation. I would certainly make a big fuss and ask to speak to the person on the phone's manager.

Anyway ihug are crap change providers. We are


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webmeister
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Sydney Australia

Draft a nice little letter to the Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman, then fire off another letter to the ACCC, maybe another one to the Fair Trading Commission


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Ghostface
down with the sickness



Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Melbourne

What ended up happening with the $200 bill? Did they give up on the court threat?

They sound dodgy. I'd make sure they don't have your payment details and you should make sure you have full control of paying any money to them.


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3jaz
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Sydney ,Australia

quote:
Originally posted by webmeister
Draft a nice little letter to the Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman, then fire off another letter to the ACCC, maybe another one to the Fair Trading Commission


hehe! where's the letter to John Law's ?

Old Post Jan-15-2004 09:54  Australia
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Psygnosis
Obliterate then Stabilize



Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Sydney

quote:
Originally posted by Ghostface
What ended up happening with the $200 bill? Did they give up on the court threat?

They sound dodgy. I'd make sure they don't have your payment details and you should make sure you have full control of paying any money to them.


Nah, They are still threatening the court situation, yeh and there is no way they can get my money unless they send some fools from the debt collection agency...hah ill just laugh at them.

But the thing is that I did actually talk to the manager of IHUG in the Sydney center and he said that i was wrong bla bla bla...

now everytime i call, they say the same thing.

Now they go the deadline of the payment is the 20th...so hmmm i dunno what do to anymore.


Yeh Joel, i might actually do that hehe...seriously this has to be another "company screws with customer" situation...or maybe Ihug are just unaware of their own stupidty to fix their mistakes.

Josh, yeh Ihug are indeed crap, the main reason i did join up to them was well the speed was good for a 56k. I mean my maximum d/l speed is 5ks as you mentioned, but thats probably the highest i ever got from all companies...but most definetly will change my mind about Ihug now.



So by reading these situations, are they wrong?? or am i just missing something?


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Ghostface
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Melbourne

heh heh you should email today tonight.


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lethal
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Sydney, OZ

Ok Psygnosis my suggestion is ask them (as calmly as possible - i know its difficult) what plan THEY belive you are on, ask them to send out a completely documented contract for that plan, check this with the details on their website. Also ask for more time before the due date of payment so that you have time to check the validity of the contract (this may either do nothing, or make them think your serious about paying if your shown to be in the wrong (i.e more time))....

But yes definitely send off letters to the ACCC, fair trading dept, and the telecommunications obudsman as webby said because the way i read their website - the most you can pay is $39.95 and i dont even see a plan which says 200 hours is the maximum....

Good luck mate....


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djway
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: .syd.au.

been in the same sorta situation w/ ihug....I cancelled my account except 4 mail..so NEVER dialed up....so there was no cost....at the time they put me on the sly for a 10 meg account and I got about 400 meg of mail that month, instead of a free bill it was a few hundred, i told em 2 shove it...didn't pay that month, nor the next, nor after they cancelled my account. Costs kept getting higher for "Account Keeping". Eventually, about 6 months later and a fair bit more onto my bill i got a visting from Mr Debit Collector. I payed my bill that night.

--djway


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Psygnosis
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Sydney

quote:
Originally posted by djway
I payed my bill that night.

--djway


So you eventually had to pay it???


Cheer Lethal...i'll ring them up tomorrow morning and tell them that.


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djway
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: .syd.au.

quote:
Originally posted by lethal
Ok Psygnosis my suggestion is ask them (as calmly as possible - i know its difficult) what plan THEY belive you are on, ask them to send out a completely documented contract for that plan, check this with the details on their website. Also ask for more time before the due date of payment so that you have time to check the validity of the contract (this may either do nothing, or make them think your serious about paying if your shown to be in the wrong (i.e more time))....

But yes definitely send off letters to the ACCC, fair trading dept, and the telecommunications obudsman as webby said because the way i read their website - the most you can pay is $39.95 and i dont even see a plan which says 200 hours is the maximum....

Good luck mate....


This is what i'd do. You can also ask for your conversation to be e-mailed to you (that blurb b4 they answer saying your recorded may come in handy), this way you can confirm you didn't ask to be ass raped by them.

My case wasn't as strong as yours, looking on their site they've done something that doesn't exist.

I'll see you on TV soon

--djway


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djway
Trooper



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: .syd.au.

quote:
Originally posted by Psygnosis
So you eventually had to pay it???


Cheer Lethal...i'll ring them up tomorrow morning and tell them that.



Yep, slightly different situation here. I think u can win, where the plan the put me on and the plan i assumed I was onwere two different things...I said put me on e-mail only they said ok u're on this plan then...I just assumed the bitch would of put me on what I asked to be put on, and didn't check...I was wrong.

--djway


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