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BelgianGuru
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Belgium
What do you guys do when you're out of beat ?

When you're mixing, everything sounds fine, so you start blending the tracks togheter, and all of a sudden they're out of beats, for whatever reason, maybe yours, maybe something touch the arm or whatever. The two beats are now out of pace, killing the ambience. What do you do ?

I usually try to push them back into tempo, but I don't think that's such a good idea if it's a major off-beat. I heared mike making a terrible mistake and he simple did a hard switch, so basically turn down the old and turn up the new track, so the mistake was only 1 sec maximum or something, and most probably just the DJ's were 'pissed at' that error.

What's the best thing to do then ?


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borron
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Portugal

Every dj i've seen does the same i do; correct the beat... just do a quick acceleration/deceleration w/ the platter and lock it with the pitch if necessary.

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skm
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: melb, aus

would increasing/decreasing the pitch, then returning it b a good idea? i do this but i rkn most ppl wouldnt seeing as they might lose their original position

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Spin Doctor
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Registered: Jul 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by skm
would increasing/decreasing the pitch, then returning it b a good idea? i do this but i rkn most ppl wouldnt seeing as they might lose their original position


You’ll find that’s how a lot of DJ’s, myself included, mix regardless! Takes a bit of practice to get used to, but once you’ve got it nailed, you’re laughing. After all, Tony De Vit said that you should never touch the record that’s playing live!

As for the initial question, if it's caused by the needle skipping or some such other mechanical fault then the only real thing you can do is cut the old tune out. Correcting the error by speeding up or slowing down isn't really an option as they'll be out of phrase with one another. You could kill the incoming tune and start again, but there is the risk that the tune will skip in the same place again, making you look like a right Wally, plus there might not be enough time left on the first tune any more. Finally, If it's because you're not very good at beatmatching, keep practicing.

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ezbeats
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Seattle, USA

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making you look like a right Wally


what is this 'right WALLY'? ive never heard of it. and whats this bens your uncle stuff all about too?


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dknylady
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Registered: Aug 2002
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ok well tony de vit might be a great dj but i dont' quite agree that you shouldn't touch the record while it's playing! it IS possible to adjust the speed by touching the spindle, or pushing the label, without anyone being able to hear your touching it.

anway when i screw up i immediately try to fix it, by either of those methods i've described. (i should really try to learn to do this without touching, i just keep forgetting to practice it!)

besides i would rather hear the dj fix the record for one second and go on beat, then sit through a mix of booom da booom da boom da booom!


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failsafe
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: YYZ (finally)

If I have plenty of time left on the out going record I'll take the incoming out and start again. If there isn't much time left I'll try and quickly adjust the incoming by applying pressure to the record lable or spindle. If it's a vocal track that can sound pretty awful though.

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Freak
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Registered: Jul 2003
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After all, Tony De Vit said that you should never touch the record that’s playing live!



He was also gay- but you dont see me bending over just because he used to

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BelgianGuru
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Belgium

No it's really in a situation where you're close to the crowd, or to that machine that spits out small papers for fun. I mean even some serious big joints make that mistake over here. So Someone touching the record by accident when trying to give you whatever the fuck, or some fancy paper falling on your vinyl fucking your needle beyond recognition etc... If the beat is suddenly not in tempo anymore I can almost 99% push the incoming track back in tempo.


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DjCoz
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Registered: Mar 2003
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Cool

I've tried correcting only using the pitch control, but it seems next to impossible, I'm still in awe of DJs that can do that. I hope one day I can figure this out. So for now I'll have to stick to touching either the record or the side of the platter.


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vhx1
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: San Jose/L.A. CA

I've only been doin this fer six weeks but i started messing around with pitch bending.. correcting using the pitch. It works quite a bit better than touching the platter but you need to make sure you return to the right position

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quote:
Originally posted by DjCoz
I've tried correcting only using the pitch control, but it seems next to impossible, I'm still in awe of DJs that can do that. I hope one day I can figure this out. So for now I'll have to stick to touching either the record or the side of the platter.


What type of decks you spinning on?? Cuz if you are on Tech's you should have no problem using the pitch control to fix your problem. They are crazy for how fast they can speed up and slow down. Its pretty much instant. But then again if you are on some other kind of decks this won't be the case really...

Just curious..

Cheers.

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