I noticed from nearly every midi file that most producers do the first 4 bars to establish the base of the tune, and the last 4 to go 'higher' to make what would be a 'typical' trance tune. This is all pretty hard to explain but my tunes generally stay quite low and depressive. I'm writing morbid trance! I know where my problem lies but i just cant seem to fix it. Anyone else suffer from this problem?

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It's chord progressions you're having problems with, and there's no set way to do them. Read up on them, experiment with the different types, and see what fits to your tastes.

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Originally posted by Masonious you win again dude - and nice move shoving the whole i figured out how to order pizza thing in my face. i tried that 4 and a half months ago and woke up with a Taiwanese transvestite but to Ygrene it's just, "anoother day in the life, noooo biggieee".

i like 'morbid' trance and have made a couple joyful melodies that sound like they'd rather be used in happy hardcore, maybe we should swap them

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A possible solution - use chord inversions. ACE is an A minor chord, but so is CEA and ECA. Try building your melodies around inverted chords in the second bar.

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cheers all, I will definately have a crack at chord inversions, although I don't think thats the problem - its more the structure of the melody ... hard to explain, ill try and stick up some midis later to help.

I think my other problem is that im over complicating it, most of the trance i like consists of a simple bass line, a relatively simple 4 or 8 bar melody, and a smaller tune that pretty much mimics the bass but about 2 or 3 octaves higher.

I've got some ideas to try later anyway so Ill see how I get on.

here's a good site I posted a few weeks ago on theory.. READ IT

http://www.completechords.com/Pages...LY_Works_2c.htm

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Well, I'd say you could do a couple of things. First, you could just transpose your melody up an octave, or at least double it up an octave if you're just going for a higher pitch. You could also transpose your song up a couple of keys, which really wouldn't be all that hard, you'd just have to watch to make sure your bass doesn't get too high. Third, try staying away from minor chords, or at least from straight old I, III, V type chords. Adding a flat seventh I think really brightens up a minor chord. I personally like sus chords which actually have no third and are just I, IV, V with a flat seventh thrown in ocassionally. Also, as said before, try different inversions. You can have a major chord, but using inversions that keep the major third as high as possible will take away much of its sweetness. Some other possibilities would be to use a VII on a major chord, which will definetly add some tension. If you'd like more ideas on some higher partials (9ths, 11ths, 13ths) let me know. Hope this helps.

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