hey whats up everyone... i was thinking of upgrading my now aging stanton trackmaster 2 rs cartridges on tech m3d's to something a bit better. i was never too happy with them... dont hold in the groove very well and i always had to keep my tracking weight around 4.5g and anti-skate at 3 to prevent skipping... was thinking of the whitlabels everyone has been talking about. oh and i dont scratch or anything...
thanks
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Feb-26-2004 18:56
`pr0digy
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Location: Philadelphia
I have a Stanton Trackmaster II and it sucks. The Whitelabels track great plus they take less than 2 grams to do it, can't wait till I can afford a pair ;p
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Feb-26-2004 20:34
WeasiL
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Location: Long Island
im surprised at the stantons as they werent that cheap either... i think i paid like 185 or so for a pair... what are the whitelabels around $120 a piece? and is there anything better then the shures i should be looking at?
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Feb-26-2004 20:51
T:REBEL
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Los Angeles, California
Anti-Skate on 3REE?
Damn!
What did you expect from the elliptical needles of the RS version of the TRACKMASTERS? Elliptical needles have a harder time staying in the groove.
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Feb-26-2004 21:35
T:REBEL
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Location: Los Angeles, California
I'm an OM/standard cart freak, so naturally I would say these:
Ortofon OM DJ-S
Ortofon OM NC-S
Shure M44-G
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Feb-26-2004 21:38
auujay
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Cleveland
quote:
Originally posted by T:REBEL
Anti-Skate on 3REE?
Damn!
What did you expect from the elliptical needles of the RS version of the TRACKMASTERS? Elliptical needles have a harder time staying in the groove.
An anti-skate of 3 is not suprising because his weight is so high, anti-skate can be guesstimated to be the same as your weight.
I am pretty sure elliptical needles are supposed to hold the groove better then spherical. Though I guess Stanton's may not track very well no matter what
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i have whitelabels. my height is at 4 mm. my antiskate is 0. my weight is at 2.5. never skips, even when i backcue fast. you can probably find a pair on ebay for 150. i bought my pair for 120 on ebay... so good deals are around... just gotta look.
Feb-26-2004 22:28
`pr0digy
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Location: Philadelphia
Wait, the Trackmaster 2's are elliptical ? Motherfuck...
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Feb-27-2004 02:23
dartman
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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: western mass
Trackmaster 2 SKs are spherical, the Trackmaster 2 RSs (roger sanchez) are elliptical, the groovemaster 2 RMs are elliptical
Feb-27-2004 07:56
`pr0digy
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Philadelphia
quote:
Originally posted by dartman
Trackmaster 2 SKs are spherical, the Trackmaster 2 RSs (roger sanchez) are elliptical, the groovemaster 2 RMs are elliptical
Ah, I have the SK version. They still seem to jump all over the place though. The slightest movement makes the whole cart sort of shake around the needle.
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Feb-27-2004 15:23
dartman
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Location: western mass
yeah, i have a set of the trackmaster 2SKs that i got before i got my decks and they jumped around all the time too. then i replaced the stylus with groovemaster 2RM tips but they still jumped around abit, but they sounded alot better. then i bought some M44Gs and havent looked back. i cant make these puppies skip and i only have 1.5 grams of tracking force. they dont really have as much bass as i would like but they dont sound all that bad and w/ the really low tracking force i cant imagine that they are eating up my vinyl too much.
Feb-27-2004 16:27
Wildfir3
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: La La Land
quote:
Originally posted by `pr0digy they take less than 2 grams to do it
I don't know for sure but i've always wondered about this: isnt the 'only 2 grams' just a marketing 'bullshit' stunt? I mean, it's great if it only requires 2 grams or so, but isnt that because the element + needle weigh more than others, such as concordes?
I'm probably wrong, but since the whitelabels look so big and huge and stuff, i always thought the tracking force was compensated or something.
