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Egyptian media thrash Palestinians ''You have cast shame and disgrace on yourselves..

Egyptian media thrash Palestinians
'You have cast shame and disgrace on yourselves and your cause'

The Egyptian press – normally supportive of the Palestinian cause, despite the constant terror tactics used to advance that cause – is now lashing out at Palestinians in the strongest terms in memory.

Why? A group of Palestinians attacked Egypt's Foreign Minister Ahmad Maher during his recent visit to the al-Aqsa Mosque on Israel's Temple Mount. The mob cursed the Egyptian diplomat, threw shoes at him, and called for the resumption of Jihad, or holy war, in Egypt. Maher's attackers reportedly belonged to Hizb Al-Tahrir, the "Islamist Liberation Party."

Egypt's media exploded in condemnation of the attack on their envoy, but they also went much further, many virtually condemning the Palestinian cause itself, or at least the manner in which it is being pursued.

Here is a sampling of that nation's press reaction, as translated and provided by the Middle East Media Research Institute, or MEMRI:


Columnist Muhammad Foudah, in the Egyptian daily Al-Masaa, wrote: "Did those Palestinians who attacked the Egyptian foreign minister ... ask themselves why Maher agreed to take upon himself the suffering of going to Israel and meeting with Sharon and his cabinet? Did he go just to tour a country with which we have cut off relations and gotten into political crisis for the sake of Palestine ...?! Do the Palestinians want Egypt to keep its hands off the Palestinian issue? This would be the easiest thing to do and has already been done by many Arab countries. ... You beat the man who came on your behalf, and it is Israel that takes him to the hospital for treatment. What shame and disgrace you have cast upon yourselves and on your cause?!"

The editor of Al-Akhbar, Galal Duweidar, wrote: "… The whole world, including the Palestinians, knows that there is no unresolved problem between Egypt and Israel after the [1973] October victory and the signing of the peace agreement. ... The only [remaining] reason [for problems between Egypt and Israel] is the defense of the rights of the Palestinians, and not the defense of any direct Egyptian interests ...
"Despite [Egypt's] ongoing sacrifice [for the Palestinians] which spoils Egypt's relations with Israel and with the Zionist lobby, and thus with the U.S., we were surprised by this rogue rebellious Palestinian group that carried out the barbaric and mean attack on the foreign minister of Egypt – which is the only base of support for the Palestinian people. How can we, the Egyptian columnists who every day defend the rights of this people by confronting the Israeli aggression, [how can we] explain this despicable act?... This group of criminals ... is treacherous and works for Israel and for all the enemies of the Arab nation ... Yes, these sinning assailants are deserving of the curse of 70 million Egyptians who yesterday watched this cowardly act on television ..."


Also in Al-Akhbar, columnist Said Sunbul wrote: "... Accusing the Egyptian foreign minister of betrayal means accusing Egypt of betrayal. This is not the first time that Egypt has been accused of betrayal, despite all that it did and does for the Palestinians. 'Betrayal' is a most used word in the Palestinian dictionary. They used it against former [PA] Prime Minister Abu Mazen, who preferred to resign; they used it against former minister Yasser Abd Rabbo and his colleagues, who went to Geneva to agree on a peace document that would guarantee a life of dignity for the Palestinians.
"Even before then, the Palestinians accused [Egyptian president Gamal] Abd Al-Nasser of betrayal for accepting U.S. Secretary of State Rogers' plan. They accused Anwar Sadat of betrayal when he invited them to the conference at Mina House. Had they agreed to participate in this conference, or to accept the principles of the Camp David agreement, they would not have made it possible for Israel to establish the settlements and the separation fence, and would not have needed to make all these concessions! ...

"The contemptible attack on the Egyptian foreign minister ... causes many to ask whether the time has not come to focus on our domestic problems – many of which stem from the wars in which we participated for the sake of Palestine – instead of wasting efforts [in an attempt] to solve the problem of a people who are at odds among themselves and accuse each other, and others, of betrayal."


And Ibrahim Sa-dah, editor of the Akhbar Al-Youm weekly, called for convening the Egyptian Parliament in order to discuss Egyptian policy on the Palestinian issue, in the wake of "the assassination attempt on the Egyptian foreign minister." Sa-dah reviewed the history of Egyptian-Palestinian relations from the time of President Sadat, and wrote: "Despite the contemptible attacks planned and carried out by the Arabs, under the leadership of Saddam Hussein and Yasser Arafat, against the [peace] initiative of the Egyptian president, Sadat attached no importance to this nastiness, and continued courageously on the path of peace ...
"I do not think that the Egyptian people can forget or disregard those years when its political leadership was the target of the ugliest of attacks – not only by the Arab media but also by some rulers, led by Saddam Hussein and Yasser Arafat... The Egyptian people will also not forget that Yasser Arafat danced with joy when the assassination of President Sadat was announced ...

"The time has come to tell the Palestinian Authority, 'No! A thousand times no!'... No more will we turn the right cheek to take the same slap that the left cheek has taken time and again. We are fed up, Your Excellency, sole spokesman of the Palestinian people, with your repeated statements [blaming] any anti-Egyptian act on the part of the Palestinians on a tiny, stupid minority ...

"Personally, I do not accept the apology of Palestinian President Yasser Arafat ... I demand that Parliament convene for a special session, with the presence of the foreign minister, to be dedicated to examining our policy regarding the Palestinian-Israeli conflict... Perhaps its members will think otherwise, but I also propose as a solution for this dispute ... to conduct a poll among the sectors of the Egyptian people regarding our policy in the Palestinian issue..."


Hazem Abd Al-Rahman, writing in his Al-Ahram column, said: "... Are these scum of the earth capable of accomplishing something for the Palestinian people? It is reasonable to assume that they, like the supporters of suicide bombings, are the first to damage the Palestinian cause, and are bringing death upon the Palestinian people..."(7)

Mursey 'Atallah, editor of the Al-Ahram evening edition, wrote: "... This rabble, that patronizes others and claims it is more patriotic, still seeks to trap the nation in a cycle of conflict just to inflame the emotions. Everything that happened to the Palestinians as a result of their being dragged after the leaders of words, who for over half a century waved the motto of complete liberation from the [Jordan] river to the [Mediterranean] sea, until we lost nearly everything and Palestine was left practically without a river and without a sea, was not enough for them ..."

The Arab press's condemnation of the attack on Foreign Minister Maher was nearly unanimous. For example, in the Qatari daily Al-Raya, columnist Abd Al-Karim Hashish wrote: "I don't need to repeat what others have said, that is, that the attack was organized by the Israelis. Such an allegation is first of all nonsense, and emanates from some peoples' addiction to turning the facts upside down, and burying their heads in the sand. Those who attacked the Egyptian foreign minister ... are flesh-and-blood Palestinians, and the Israelis had nothing to do with it. ... The truth is, I don't care which faction they belong to. This attack should be [condemned] by anybody with a brain, or half a brain. What I wanted to emphasize is that this stupid behavior will have serious ramifications for the status of Al-Aqsa Mosque, and might give legitimacy to Israeli intervention and Israeli security supervision over it ..."

Jubran Tuweini, editor of the Lebanese daily Al-Nahar, wrote that the attack on Maher was "the height of baseness and of Arab humiliation. It was a free gift to the enemies of the Arabs, headed by Israel. Once again, we realize that the Arabs are their own worst enemy - just as the worst enemy of the Palestinian cause is the Palestinians, who have endorsed a policy of refusal and fundamentalist extremism as a way of behavior. How many times have they already served Israel with their deeds? How many times has the behavior of these groups already saved Ariel Sharon and his government?
"What happened to Minister Maher reminds us of the history of inter-Arab relations ... A simple calculation reveals that the number of instances of Arab-Arab aggression surpasses the number of Arab-Israeli wars ..."


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Re: Egyptian media thrash Palestinians ''You have cast shame and disgrace on yourselves..

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Egyptian media thrash Palestinians
'You have cast shame and disgrace on yourselves and your cause'

The Egyptian press – normally supportive of the Palestinian cause, despite the constant terror tactics used to advance that cause – is now lashing out at Palestinians in the strongest terms in memory.

Why? A group of Palestinians attacked Egypt's Foreign Minister Ahmad Maher during his recent visit to the al-Aqsa Mosque on Israel's Temple Mount. The mob cursed the Egyptian diplomat, threw shoes at him, and called for the resumption of Jihad, or holy war, in Egypt. Maher's attackers reportedly belonged to Hizb Al-Tahrir, the "Islamist Liberation Party."

Egypt's media exploded in condemnation of the attack on their envoy, but they also went much further, many virtually condemning the Palestinian cause itself, or at least the manner in which it is being pursued.

Here is a sampling of that nation's press reaction, as translated and provided by the Middle East Media Research Institute, or MEMRI:


Columnist Muhammad Foudah, in the Egyptian daily Al-Masaa, wrote: "Did those Palestinians who attacked the Egyptian foreign minister ... ask themselves why Maher agreed to take upon himself the suffering of going to Israel and meeting with Sharon and his cabinet? Did he go just to tour a country with which we have cut off relations and gotten into political crisis for the sake of Palestine ...?! Do the Palestinians want Egypt to keep its hands off the Palestinian issue? This would be the easiest thing to do and has already been done by many Arab countries. ... You beat the man who came on your behalf, and it is Israel that takes him to the hospital for treatment. What shame and disgrace you have cast upon yourselves and on your cause?!"

The editor of Al-Akhbar, Galal Duweidar, wrote: "… The whole world, including the Palestinians, knows that there is no unresolved problem between Egypt and Israel after the [1973] October victory and the signing of the peace agreement. ... The only [remaining] reason [for problems between Egypt and Israel] is the defense of the rights of the Palestinians, and not the defense of any direct Egyptian interests ...
"Despite [Egypt's] ongoing sacrifice [for the Palestinians] which spoils Egypt's relations with Israel and with the Zionist lobby, and thus with the U.S., we were surprised by this rogue rebellious Palestinian group that carried out the barbaric and mean attack on the foreign minister of Egypt – which is the only base of support for the Palestinian people. How can we, the Egyptian columnists who every day defend the rights of this people by confronting the Israeli aggression, [how can we] explain this despicable act?... This group of criminals ... is treacherous and works for Israel and for all the enemies of the Arab nation ... Yes, these sinning assailants are deserving of the curse of 70 million Egyptians who yesterday watched this cowardly act on television ..."


Also in Al-Akhbar, columnist Said Sunbul wrote: "... Accusing the Egyptian foreign minister of betrayal means accusing Egypt of betrayal. This is not the first time that Egypt has been accused of betrayal, despite all that it did and does for the Palestinians. 'Betrayal' is a most used word in the Palestinian dictionary. They used it against former [PA] Prime Minister Abu Mazen, who preferred to resign; they used it against former minister Yasser Abd Rabbo and his colleagues, who went to Geneva to agree on a peace document that would guarantee a life of dignity for the Palestinians.
"Even before then, the Palestinians accused [Egyptian president Gamal] Abd Al-Nasser of betrayal for accepting U.S. Secretary of State Rogers' plan. They accused Anwar Sadat of betrayal when he invited them to the conference at Mina House. Had they agreed to participate in this conference, or to accept the principles of the Camp David agreement, they would not have made it possible for Israel to establish the settlements and the separation fence, and would not have needed to make all these concessions! ...

"The contemptible attack on the Egyptian foreign minister ... causes many to ask whether the time has not come to focus on our domestic problems – many of which stem from the wars in which we participated for the sake of Palestine – instead of wasting efforts [in an attempt] to solve the problem of a people who are at odds among themselves and accuse each other, and others, of betrayal."


And Ibrahim Sa-dah, editor of the Akhbar Al-Youm weekly, called for convening the Egyptian Parliament in order to discuss Egyptian policy on the Palestinian issue, in the wake of "the assassination attempt on the Egyptian foreign minister." Sa-dah reviewed the history of Egyptian-Palestinian relations from the time of President Sadat, and wrote: "Despite the contemptible attacks planned and carried out by the Arabs, under the leadership of Saddam Hussein and Yasser Arafat, against the [peace] initiative of the Egyptian president, Sadat attached no importance to this nastiness, and continued courageously on the path of peace ...
"I do not think that the Egyptian people can forget or disregard those years when its political leadership was the target of the ugliest of attacks – not only by the Arab media but also by some rulers, led by Saddam Hussein and Yasser Arafat... The Egyptian people will also not forget that Yasser Arafat danced with joy when the assassination of President Sadat was announced ...

"The time has come to tell the Palestinian Authority, 'No! A thousand times no!'... No more will we turn the right cheek to take the same slap that the left cheek has taken time and again. We are fed up, Your Excellency, sole spokesman of the Palestinian people, with your repeated statements [blaming] any anti-Egyptian act on the part of the Palestinians on a tiny, stupid minority ...

"Personally, I do not accept the apology of Palestinian President Yasser Arafat ... I demand that Parliament convene for a special session, with the presence of the foreign minister, to be dedicated to examining our policy regarding the Palestinian-Israeli conflict... Perhaps its members will think otherwise, but I also propose as a solution for this dispute ... to conduct a poll among the sectors of the Egyptian people regarding our policy in the Palestinian issue..."


Hazem Abd Al-Rahman, writing in his Al-Ahram column, said: "... Are these scum of the earth capable of accomplishing something for the Palestinian people? It is reasonable to assume that they, like the supporters of suicide bombings, are the first to damage the Palestinian cause, and are bringing death upon the Palestinian people..."(7)

Mursey 'Atallah, editor of the Al-Ahram evening edition, wrote: "... This rabble, that patronizes others and claims it is more patriotic, still seeks to trap the nation in a cycle of conflict just to inflame the emotions. Everything that happened to the Palestinians as a result of their being dragged after the leaders of words, who for over half a century waved the motto of complete liberation from the [Jordan] river to the [Mediterranean] sea, until we lost nearly everything and Palestine was left practically without a river and without a sea, was not enough for them ..."

The Arab press's condemnation of the attack on Foreign Minister Maher was nearly unanimous. For example, in the Qatari daily Al-Raya, columnist Abd Al-Karim Hashish wrote: "I don't need to repeat what others have said, that is, that the attack was organized by the Israelis. Such an allegation is first of all nonsense, and emanates from some peoples' addiction to turning the facts upside down, and burying their heads in the sand. Those who attacked the Egyptian foreign minister ... are flesh-and-blood Palestinians, and the Israelis had nothing to do with it. ... The truth is, I don't care which faction they belong to. This attack should be [condemned] by anybody with a brain, or half a brain. What I wanted to emphasize is that this stupid behavior will have serious ramifications for the status of Al-Aqsa Mosque, and might give legitimacy to Israeli intervention and Israeli security supervision over it ..."

Jubran Tuweini, editor of the Lebanese daily Al-Nahar, wrote that the attack on Maher was "the height of baseness and of Arab humiliation. It was a free gift to the enemies of the Arabs, headed by Israel. Once again, we realize that the Arabs are their own worst enemy - just as the worst enemy of the Palestinian cause is the Palestinians, who have endorsed a policy of refusal and fundamentalist extremism as a way of behavior. How many times have they already served Israel with their deeds? How many times has the behavior of these groups already saved Ariel Sharon and his government?
"What happened to Minister Maher reminds us of the history of inter-Arab relations ... A simple calculation reveals that the number of instances of Arab-Arab aggression surpasses the number of Arab-Israeli wars ..."


i have to say it..ALL UR THREADS SUCK.last time i open one of em..

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i have to say it..ALL UR THREADS SUCK.last time i open one of em..


I don't expect you to enjoy or even read my posts.... afterall, they're usualy a critisism of the Arab world's hate riddin actions that you so dearly love to condone.

Good luck with your support of world hate and racism.


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I don't expect you to enjoy or even read my posts.... afterall, they're usualy a critisism of the Arab world's hate riddin actions that you so dearly love to condone.

Good luck with your support of world hate and racism.


fuck you

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I'd love to - I'm sure you would too!


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Re: Re: Re: Egyptian media thrash Palestinians ''You have cast shame and disgrace on yourselves..

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I don't expect you to enjoy or even read my posts.... afterall, they're usualy a critisism of the Arab world's hate riddin actions that you so dearly love to condone.

Good luck with your support of world hate and racism.


wow so because i think ur thread sucks i am a world hater and a racist..i barely post in this forum so i do not think u know any of my political belifs..so i assume who doesnt like ur threads is a racist hahaha u r livin in a fanacy world

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..i barely post in this forum so i do not think u know any of my political belifs..so i assume who doesnt like ur threads is a racist hahaha u r livin in a fanacy world


You post your fair share of crap... i do know your views and that is why the above post from me was written in the first place!


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You post your fair share of crap... i do know your views and that is why the above post from me was written in the first place!


As I'm sufficiently retarded to be provoked into posting by your endless stream of propaganda, and have a somewhat similar nick, there's a good chance that you might have mixed up tranceaholic and me?

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