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Yoepus
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Ketchup fields, Texas
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Renegade
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
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Yes it's a something of a fuck-up, but let's just calm down a bit here. Although I know how much you guys love to get stuck into the UN (on the very, very rare occasions they don't quite get it right  ) put it in perspective: we don't know that it is from the Rwandan president's plane yet and it may not even be entirely the UN's fault.
According to the Guardian (see here):
| quote: | | Its pristine condition convinced aviation experts that it had not been involved in a crash, so rather than open and examine it - an expensive affair - they filed it and forgot about it, he said. |
Regardless of whether those aviation experts are from inside or outside the organistion, much of the fault lies entirely on their shoulders rather than the UN organisation as a whole. Similarly, even if the black-box had have been opened immediately after its arrival at the UN, it wouldn't have changed the succeeding circumstances given that it didn't arrive until after the massacres had already taken place:
| quote: | | It was sent by pouch from the UN mission in Rwanda in 1994, by way of Nairobi, Kenya, about two or three months after the genocide, Mr Eckhard said. |
It may tell us what actually happened, but it won't reverse what happened. It was a cock-up, no doubt about that, but can we wait until the test results come back before we start braying for Kofi's head? 
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Mar-13-2004 07:38 
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occrider
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: New York
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In all fairness to the UN:
Black Box Not Thought to Be From Rwanda
Wed Mar 17, 9:59 PM ET
By EDITH M. LEDERER, Associated Press Writer
UNITED NATIONS - Initial tests indicate that the flight recorder recently discovered at the United Nations (news - web sites) is not linked to a 1994 plane crash that triggered Rwanda's genocide, a U.N. spokesman said Wednesday.
In a major embarrassment for the world organization, the recorder was discovered a week ago in a filing cabinet in the U.N.'s Air Safety Unit where it apparently languished for a decade after its arrival by diplomatic pouch from the U.N. Mission in Rwanda.
On Tuesday, U.N. officials took the "black box" to the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board (news - web sites) in Washington where it was opened in the presence of experts from the International Civil Aviation Organization, a U.N. agency based in Montreal, said U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard.
After last week's discovery, there was speculation the recorder might have been from the plane shot down while carrying Rwandan President Juvenal Habyarimana and his counterpart from Burundi from a meeting in Tanzania. The genocide in Rwanda began as news of Habyarimana's death spread, and by the time it ended more than 500,000 people had been killed.
According to Eckhard, the aviation experts on Tuesday found that the "black box" — which was labeled a cockpit voice recorder — contained tapes lasting about 30 minutes that recorded some conversation in French.
"Nothing heard so far on the tape links the CVR (cockpit voice recorder) to the aircraft crash on April 6, 1994 in Rwanda," he said.
"Additional expert attention, as is normally the case, will be required to determine the exact contents of the tape and that process will take a bit more time," Eckhard said. "Only when we have this additional review can we draw any definite conclusions about the recorder."
The cockpit voice recorder — which is actually orange with two diagonal cream-colored stripes — was displayed in the U.N. spokesman's office on Wednesday afternoon. It had an Air France sticker on the front, though Eckhard said that didn't necessarily mean it came from an Air France plane.
The rectangular-shaped recorder was made by Fairchild Industrial Products of Comack, N.Y., and bore the serial number 6285. It arrived at U.N. headquarters with a sticker saying UNAMIR — the initials of the U.N. Assistance Mission in Rwanda — and the date 6/4/94. Eckhard asked for help in identifying it.
Denis Beissel, the retired U.N. official who received the recorder, told The Associated Press on Friday that he tried to get the black box analyzed but no one responded and it was "put on a shelf."
Even if the black box was from the downed plane, it is unlikely that the information inside would have changed the course of events. No one disputes that Habyarimana's plane was intentionally shot down, and there is little the flight data recorder could reveal about who was responsible.
The allegations about the black box first appeared in the French newspaper Le Monde.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...un_rwanda_probe
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Mar-18-2004 07:05 
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Yoepus
Neo-condimist
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Ketchup fields, Texas
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| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
In all fairness to the UN:
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Hey! I've been setup, this is making me look ridiclous, this is smear campagin! I smell conspiracy
| quote: | | UNITED NATIONS - Initial tests indicate that the flight recorder recently discovered at the United Nations (news - web sites) is not linked to a 1994 plane crash that triggered Rwanda's genocide, a U.N. spokesman said Wednesday. |
ouch baby, ouch 
| quote: | | In a major embarrassment for the world organization, the recorder was discovered a week ago in a filing cabinet in the U.N.'s Air Safety Unit where it apparently languished for a decade after its arrival by diplomatic pouch from the U.N. Mission in Rwanda. |
you lied to me, you told me they stored it in the peacekeeping cabinet!  
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On Tuesday, U.N. officials took the "black box" to the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board (news - web sites) in Washington where it was opened in the presence of experts from the International Civil Aviation Organization, a U.N. agency based in Montreal, said U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard. |
 !!! I've been vindicated! I knew those stupid blue hats didn't open the box! I can't believe they took things so literally.
Don't open the box, it says don't open, we shouldn't open it.. Ahh the UN, you kill me. 
oh and i'm crossing my fingers they'll find away to link it anyway
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