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that's cool, thanks for listening.. i think i am starting to understand what to do with the kicks.. before i was just leaving them alone pretty much and just trying to get a good sample, but a lot of people are saying how that sounds 'flat', but now i figured out if you use a parametric eq and boost the correct frequency (like 55 Hz is the note A1) so say if your song is in some A key, then you can use a parametric eq to boost 55 Hz (turn the Q all the way up though) and then tune the kick so it is close to A (you will know by the massive low end that comes out when you get it right  ) then just tweak till you have a good balance of that low end.. also, you could automate the boosted frequency and the pitch of the kick to match your bassline, but i'm not sure if that is done very often but it would be interesting to have the kick always in tune with the bass..
here is a helpful link to the frequencies of musical notes:
http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html
again, thanks for listening fractal and i do think i am going to finish naroque naroiya before oblique
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