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Sand Leaper
Tension hunter



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Oslo, Norway
Talking Armin van Buuren's downfall

I figured a bash Armin-thread was in order, just to even out the score. Since PvD and Tiesto have had their share for a while, the next one should be Armin, target of TA worship en masse as he is.

Personally I find it sad to see that Armin has ditched his experimentalism and knack for mixing genres, just cos all the muppets in #armind start bawling their eyes out the minute Armin plays something that isn't their usual boring piece of ASOT drivel like Burned With Desire. Thus, we go from edgy and punchy sets like these..

ASOT 82

1. Rui da Silva- Feel the love (Kismet)
2. Syntax- Pray (Junkie XL remix) (Illustrious)
3. Solid Globe- North Pole (Fundamental)
TUNE OF THE WEEK: 4. Thompson & Holden- Nothing (93 returning mix) (Loaded)
5. Beetseekers- Walk of Notes (JOOF)
6. Robert Lidstroem- Recitation (CDR)
7. POS- Amnesiac (Ajunabeats)
8. York- The Awakening (Hiver & Hammer remix) (Zeitgeist)
9. Solarstone- Solarcoaster (Midway remix) (Lost Language)
10. Orange- 7 (ID&T)

21.00- 22.00-> Armin van Buuren Non-stop in the mix
1. Armin van Buuren feat Ray Wilson- Yet Another remix (Attention Deficit remix 2) (Nebula/United/Armind)
2. Kiko- World Cup 2.0
3. Unmark- The Silent You (sirup)
4. ODD- Don't Look at me (Paul Roger's late night dub) (Sumsonic)
5. Rewinders- Pacific Dance (Yeti)
6. Peter Dafnous- From here to Eternity (CDR)
7. Push- Universal nation 2002 (Bonzai)
8. Stateform- Rio (white)
9. Vincent de Moor- Additional Works#3 (Combined Forces)
10. Chemical Brothers- Electronic Battle Weapon no. 6 (Virgin)

ASOT 73

20.00- 21.00-> The newest tunes selected
1. Andain- Summer's Calling (Airwave Club Mix)(Blackhole)
2. Conjure One feat. Sinead O Connor- Tears from the Moon (Hybrid remix) (Nettwork)
3. Carlo Resoort vs. 4 Strings- unknown title (Liquid)
TUNE OF THE WEEK: 4. Junkie XL- Beauty never Fades (Roadrunner)
5. Mesh- Purple Haze (Blackhole)
6. Oliver Lieb pres. Snakeman- Afrika (Yoshitoshi)
7. M.i.k.e. vs. John "OO" Fleming- Icecream (M.i.k.e. remix) (Bonzai)
8. D&A vs. A.P.- Pure NRG
9. Altitude- Tears in the Rain (Platipus)
10. Underworld- Dinosaur Adventures 3D (Sharpside remix)(JBO)

21.00- 22.00-> Armin van Buuren Non-stop in the mix
1. DJ Danjo & Rob Styles- Aragon (Intro mix) (silver premium cdr)
2. Funktion feat. Kelly- Seduction (Alternative Route)
3. Young Parisiens- U write the Rules (CDR)
4. GTR- Mistral (Original mix) (Five AM)
5. Sun Decade- I'm Alone (Mirco de Govia dub) (euphonic)
6. Visionaire- Accelerator (Visionaire hard edit) (FTM)
7. Solar Factor- No Return (Platipus)
8. Scanners- What God has Given You (debunk)
9. Driftwood- Freeloader (Green Martian remix) (Positiva/ Spinnin)
10. AvB feat. Ray Wilson- Yet Another Day (Hiver & Hammer Ground Control remix) (Armind/United)

Club Eau 26.10.02 http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ight=Armin+solo

...to boring prog drivel and edgeless dutch fluff trance like this:

20:00 - 21:00 The Newest Tunes Selected
1. Antiloop - Hello Strings (Silver Planet)
2. Aly & Fila - Eye Of Horus (Solid Globe Remix)(CDR)
3. Three Drives - Air Traffic (Bobina Remix)(Nebula)
4. TUNE OF THE WEEK: The Thrillseekers - New Life (Lange Remix) (Adjusted)
5. Ton TB - Dreammachine (Blackhole)
6. FUTURE FAVORITE: 8 Wonders - The Morning After (The Thrillseekers Remix)(Somatic Sense)
7. Ronski Speed - EOS (Euphonic)
8. Empyreal Sun - Twisted Reality (Re:Locate Remix)(ATCR)

21:00 - 22:00 Non-Stop In The Mix
1. Unknown Artist - Turn It Into Gold (Probspot Remix)(Deep)
2. Powerplant - Blame (Luke Chable Remix)
3. Remy & Roland Klinkenberg - Till Ya Drop (Electronic Elements)
4. Paul van Dyk - Buenaventura (UK Album version)(Positiva)
5. Sander van Doorn - Punk'd (Spinnin)
6. Scott Bond vs Solar Stone - Naked Angel (Son Of A Pitch Remix)(Made in England)
7. Tectonic Shift featuring Andre Visior - Break Of Dawn (Drizzly)
8. Aquasource - Waking Up The Sun (Kuffdam & Plant Remix)(JooF)
9. Arctic Quest - Offbeat (Armind)

Ocean Diva: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=176371

And don't get me started on his productions. Burned With Desire, Mushroom Therapy (AvB Mix) and From The Heart is pure stale garbage, lightyears away from stuff like Alibi - Eternity, Aria - Dido (AvB Mix) and Fuel To Fire - Fuel To Fire (Armin's Drumarama Dub).

(Yes I'm bored at work )


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Old Post Apr-19-2004 13:22  Norway
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T-1000
Searching for a rhythm...



Registered: Jun 2003
Location: In the wrong place at the wrong time

I'm with you on ALL points except that you call Prog. boring, How dare you!?


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Benz & MD - Oneric
Madoka - Plataforma
Solid Globe - North Pole
Quivver - Space Maneuvers Part 3
Digital Witchcraft - Brindavan (Grayarea's Purge the Inventory Mix)

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Sand Leaper
Tension hunter



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Oslo, Norway

quote:
Originally posted by T-1000
I'm with you on ALL points except that you call Prog. boring, How dare you!?


Not all prog is boring, just the majority of the prog that Armin plays Plus he played a lot better prog tunes earlier. Remy & Roland Klinkenberg - Till Ya Drop (Electronic Elements) and Sander van Doorn - Punk'd (Spinnin) are pretty damn good though.


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Old Post Apr-19-2004 13:34  Norway
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Muppet
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Holland, Vught

Will you please don't use my name in that way...I don't like that
quote:
Personally I find it sad to see that Armin has ditched his experimentalism and knack for mixing genres, just cos all the muppets in #armind start bawling their eyes out the minute Armin plays something that isn't their usual boring piece of ASOT drivel like Burned With Desire. Thus, we go from edgy and punchy sets like these..






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acar
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Istanbul

Burned With Desire, Mushroom Therapy are top tunes... Dont think armin is on a downfall m8..

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Robert
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Registered: Jan 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by T-1000
Currently Listening To:

Mind - Afterlife


heh



As for Armin, I don't think it's quite fair to judge too much on what you hear on ASOT. The idea of ASOT is to play new (unreleased) stuff, which is what he does. If the tracks aren't what they used to be anymore, that's not really up to him then is it? He just plays what's new...
Not liking his own stuff (anymore) is up to you. Some people enjoy it, others don't...


Of course my opinion is biased as Armada has brainwashed me and I must step in once something "bad" has been said about Armada or Armin...

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twizta
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Shanghai, China

blah.

who cares.

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Az
took me all the way back



Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Walking to John O'Groats for some spastics

he's been in massive decline for ages
his older ASOT sets were great
but he's never played like that in a club when I've seen him, just cheesy fucking andain/binary finary bootlegs
plays trance for retards

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speedracer_mec
DeepHouse & Progressive



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Greece, where the good progressive comes from.

his recent ASOT sucked ass


wtf is up with this industry

his last great remix IMO was ayu-appears(avb remix)

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Sand Leaper
Tension hunter



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Oslo, Norway

quote:
Originally posted by Robert
Of course my opinion is biased as Armada has brainwashed me and I must step in once something "bad" has been said about Armada or Armin...


Yes, therefore your arguement is void

quote:
Originally posted by Muppet
Will you please don't use my name in that way...I don't like that







sorry bout that


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DaveT
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: San Francisco

Sorry, have to disagree. His recent 5 hour set her in SF was incredible and it was unique for him in at a US gig as he had no opener...he was on the decks when the room opened. He started with melodic prog (ie. His frist track - Deepsky - Talk Like a Stanger (Markus Shulz....remix) and worked it up to beautiful trance. Listen to ASOT 143, which is a couple hours of the set he played here that night (April 2).

It's beautiful!!!!!

Dave


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T-1000
Searching for a rhythm...



Registered: Jun 2003
Location: In the wrong place at the wrong time

quote:
Originally posted by acar
Burned With Desire.....top tune

Not by a long shot


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Few of my all time favorites:

Benz & MD - Oneric
Madoka - Plataforma
Solid Globe - North Pole
Quivver - Space Maneuvers Part 3
Digital Witchcraft - Brindavan (Grayarea's Purge the Inventory Mix)

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