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TranceGiant
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Registered: Jun 2001
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Be Cool! Define "define"

These endless discussions about the meaning of words are paralyzing any constructive debate. Ask Swamper to open a goddamn "Definition board" but dont destroy this one.


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Dmatrox
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Dunno

if people dont know what a word is, look it up in the dictionary

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Yoepus
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What do you mean by swamper?



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TranceGiant
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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
What do you mean by swamper?




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Yoepus
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quote:
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I disagree with this definition!


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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
I disagree with this definition!

I might not agree with you, but at least you got a sense of humor
quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
These endless discussions about the meaning of words are paralyzing any constructive debate.

I agree I've given up have serious debates here, so my solution is I go to another forum.


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DigiNut
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quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
I agree I've given up have serious debates here, so my solution is I go to another forum.

Good for you, we're all very sad to see you go. Just do us a favour and stop whining about how our style of debating isn't up to your high ( ) standards.


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biznology
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quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Good for you, we're all very sad to see you go. Just do us a favour and stop whining about how our style of debating isn't up to your high ( ) standards.


I am sorry, I understand your reasons, but you shouldn't debase anyone that wants to take part in discussions here yet doesn't follow your 'correct debate' guidelines.

The truth is, this is a trance forum with people interested in discussing other topics. Sure, there will likely be people that do not follow general decorum, but as I have seen you disregarding igottaknow due to 'stupid' questions or personal attacks, being subtle or sarcastic yourself doesn't rectify those claims.

There is definitely decorum to be considered, yet this isn't formal debate. People should be allowed to express their opinion without proper 'schooling' or 'rule following'. Of course, those who choose to should have sources, but better debate comes out of more subjective viewpoints. If everyone was OBjective and proper there would likely be no debate.

If you desire a better environment perhaps another site is more acceptable, yet since this isn't a philosophical debate forum or politically oriented I believe that calling single people out for bullshit is questionable. Moderators ignore this forum, if they didn't the discussion would be more topic oriented.

Discussing a specific definition of a word won't lead us to higher thought though|


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DigiNut
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quote:
Originally posted by biznology
I am sorry, I understand your reasons, but you shouldn't debase anyone that wants to take part in discussions here yet doesn't follow your 'correct debate' guidelines.

The truth is, this is a trance forum with people interested in discussing other topics. Sure, there will likely be people that do not follow general decorum, but as I have seen you disregarding igottaknow due to 'stupid' questions or personal attacks, being subtle or sarcastic yourself doesn't rectify those claims.

There is definitely decorum to be considered, yet this isn't formal debate. People should be allowed to express their opinion without proper 'schooling' or 'rule following'. Of course, those who choose to should have sources, but better debate comes out of more subjective viewpoints. If everyone was OBjective and proper there would likely be no debate.

If you desire a better environment perhaps another site is more acceptable, yet since this isn't a philosophical debate forum or politically oriented I believe that calling single people out for bullshit is questionable. Moderators ignore this forum, if they didn't the discussion would be more topic oriented.

Discussing a specific definition of a word won't lead us to higher thought though|

I don't get your point. He was the one that said he was leaving to another forum because he couldn't tolerate the way we debate, not I.

In any event, I rarely if ever "debase" people, but there is a difference between (a) debating constructively but not following "formal" rules, and (b) being an out-and-out arrogant snob and basing all your arguments on how the opposition cannot debate and "won't admit they're wrong." Sorry but your criticism here is misplaced - take a good look at his posts, try to look past the fact that you happen to agree with him on certain issues, and look at the quality and character of his arguments, and you'll see exactly what I (and not only I) have against him on this forum.

It's one thing to not follow traditional rules, but it is quite another to make up one's own rules and roll off snarky retorts to all the people who don't "follow" them.


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BadBadNeil
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Believe it or not this political forum is less harsh than most i've visited. Typically there starts off with a point, somehow it turns into a "USA is evil" type of thing, and then people start name calling and the thread gets locked and people banned.

In this forum however typically only the first two happen and I haven't seen an excessive amount of name calling or any locks or bans. The people here tend to keep their emotions in check which is a good thing. This forum also has a extremely large non USA base of people from what I usually see, hence the excessive amount of Bush and USA bashing threads Comes with the territory though.

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Dmatrox
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well how about this, YOU'RE A POO POO HEAD

uh oh in before the lock

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arctic
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quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil
Believe it or not this political forum is less harsh than most i've visited. Typically there starts off with a point, somehow it turns into a "USA is evil" type of thing, and then people start name calling and the thread gets locked and people banned.


Agreed. The only other political forum that I've seen that's better than here with regards to insults and the like is the one at infidels.org. They immediately edit out any insults, and the fundies get swamped a lot faster than they do here.

quote:
In this forum however typically only the first two happen and I haven't seen an excessive amount of name calling or any locks or bans. The people here tend to keep their emotions in check which is a good thing. This forum also has a extremely large non USA base of people from what I usually see, hence the excessive amount of Bush and USA bashing threads Comes with the territory though.


I don't know, I haven't seen a hell of a lot of US bashing threads of late. Sure - there are users like Cyrus whose favourite pastime is to bash America, but they're generally outnumbered, and seem to have been focussing on Israel of late.

For every crazy US basher, there's a rabidly pro-US guy to balance things out.


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