This next Saturday 1st of May the European Union will have 10 new members. What are in your opinion the advantages and disadvantages of this new ampliation?¿ Discuss.

Some facts of the new ten members(2002):

____________Population (milions)_____GDP (bilion €)_____GDP p/c €

Poland ................. 38.2 .................... 363 ................ 9500
Czech Republic ........ 10.2 ................. 146.9 ................ 14400
Hungary ............... 10.2 ................... 138.2 ................ 13600
Slovakia .............. 5.4 .................... 61.3 ................. 11400
Slovenia .............. 2.0 .................... 35.3 ................. 17700
Lithuania .............. 3.5 .................... 34.3 ................. 9400
Latvia ................. 2.4 .................... 19.9 ................. 8500
Cyprus ................ 0.8 .................... 14 ................... 17400
Estonia ............... 1.4 .................... 13.5 ................. 10000
Malta ................. 0.4 .................... 4.6 .................. 11700


EU 15 ................. 378.4 .................. 9166.5 ............... 24010
Acceding 10 ........... 74.3 ................... 831 .................. 11150
EU 25 ................. 452.7 .................. 9997.5 ............... 21910

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Last edited by UnBracKo on Apr-27-2004 at 13:51

i think it's great for the new countries. i also hope that this will bring a new agriculture policy, since it seem hard to keep the old sucky one. and perhaps also a new decision system, cause now it will be even slower with so many countries who want to have their opinion.

but i'm all for this, it will be a great development for the eastern countries and also good for europe as a whole.

St_Andrew: i hope so

Personally I think it's a rather unwise decision to let the new members in before the agreement is made upon the EU constitution. Bringing in 10 additional members will make the project far more difficult.

Besides, who the hell let those damn slovenians in 5 years before Croatia?!!! Bastards!!

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Do you guys haze?

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.....hmm scared about it but well now it's done ....just think about how messy will be the meetings ....it was hard to agree at 15 but at 25 it gonna be worse ....and to you know who sorry about last nite got a lot of probs with my computer but we'll discuss about all this later

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Originally posted by St_Andrew i also hope that this will bring a new agriculture policy, since it seem hard to keep the old sucky one.

I'm scared about that mainly with POland.

I explain... in Poland the share of agriculture as percentage of gross added value is too low: 3.1*. But the problem is that in Poland many ppl work in the country, the percentage of agriculture workers is 19.6* out of the total.

Conclusion: an inefficient sector.

And what does it mean?¿ Well they are a medium-big country and easely they can demmand things to the E.U. so for sure they will demmand subsidies for their agriculture sector and it means less money for Spain, Ireland, Greece, Portugal... traditional recipient countries. Just a note, the E.U.'s agriculture subsidies are the most high out of all the subsidies they give. We have to wait but we will have many problems with this topic (Agriculture - Poland)


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Originally posted by UnBracKo I'm scared about that mainly with POland. I explain... in Poland the share of agriculture as percentage of gross added value is too low: 3.1*. But the problem is that in Poland many ppl work in the country, the percentage of agriculture workers is 19.6* out of the total. Conclusion: an inefficient sector. And what does it mean?¿ Well they are a medium-big country and easely they can demmand things to the E.U. so for sure they will demmand subsidies for their agriculture sector and it means less money for Spain, Ireland, Greece, Portugal... traditional recipient countries. Just a note, the E.U.'s agriculture subsidies are the most high out of all the subsidies they give. We have to wait but we will have many problems with this topic (Agriculture - Poland) edit: (*) year 2002

yeah i'm rather scared about that too, BUT i would MUCH rather give my EU money to Poland's agriculture than to france, spain, greek portugal etc.

but as i said, i hope more (southern eurpean) countries realize that this path is a bad path and therefore will support a reform....

The simple fact is that in Western society, we have a higher cost of living and agriculture just can not cut it. In the United States here things are just as bad. In my state, North Dakota, the number one producer of our income is agriculture (mainly in durum wheat). Our subsidies just for our state reach nearly 1.3 billion dollars a year for only 655,000 people in this region.

Well the only thing that can be done for agriculture is to diversify into more profitable cash crops (soybeans, tobacco, cattle, etc) or reduce production causing prices to increase. (Cutting food production helped the US get out of the Great Depression of the 1930s)

Heh, seems like trance is kinda popular in North Dakota these days...You're the 3rd person that's been living there and is visiting these forums. What town are you from?

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Besides, who the hell let those damn slovenians in 5 years before Croatia?!!! Bastards!!

lol, if it's going to take 5 years for hrvatska to get into the EU imagine how long it'll take us poor serbs to get in.. hehe, we just fight to much to worry about this EU business, true?...

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Heh, seems like trance is kinda popular in North Dakota these days...You're the 3rd person that's been living there and is visiting these forums. What town are you from?

Well, I bet those other two people from ND were my friends who introduced me to trance. I am from Fargo. Trance is NOT popular here. According to my parents, I am the only person in the world who likes this garbage (trance). The bad bit about North Dakota is that few people mix up here, so I usually have to go to Minneapolis or Winnipeg to see any good mixing.