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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA



Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
Say goodbye to smoking rooms --Next on the ban list

June 1st hasnt even arrived yet and i read that Toronto City council is already considering a bylaw to ban seperately ventilated rooms by 2007. This was supposed to be a comprimise for club and restaurant owners. Many have already spent 10s of thousands of dollars on ventilation equipment and construction. This is EXACTLY why i am against letting the regulators take an inch because they always take it a step further.

A big FU to all the people who spent 10s of thousands on a bylaw that was stupid to begin with. Coming soon, patio smoking bans. Believe it...

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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA



Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

There was once a time when bars were synonymous with smoking. But the blue air of the pub will soon dissipate. On June 1st, Toronto's bars and restaurants will become smoke-free.

With a progressive emphasis on healthy living, many saw the move coming and some bar owners, like Lesley Gaynor, made what they initially thought to be an intelligent business maneuver.

She created a designated smoking room at Queen Street’s Mitzi's Sister.

But now the city of Toronto is moving to ban these as well, leaving the future of Gaynor’s establishment hazy at best.

Creating the room cost her $9,000, a significant sum for a small establishment.

“I'm not a (big steak house) that already has lots of capital behind it. So it was a big decision to take my very limited budget and go, ‘do I take that much of it and spend it on something that could potentially be void?'"

That’s exactly what she did, however, and her worst case scenario may soon become reality. Toronto's Board of Health wants the province to bag designated smoking rooms completely by the year 2007.

Peel Region has already decided to eliminate them by 2010.

The Ontario Restaurant Hotel and Motel Association thinks the 2007 deadline is a terrible bait and switch game.

“We had an agreement signed in 1999 with the city that said that they would phase out smoking in bars and restaurants by June 2004,” commented the Association’s Ryan Parks. “We've understood that. But we've also understood that there would be an option for designated smoking rooms. They're trying to change that now.”

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Rocco
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada

people smoke because of capitalism. it is the same reason why smoking is getting banned. it is because of capitalism.

don't blame the government or the smokers, blame capitalism!

"Your dog got ran over because of CAPITALISM" - dEsidEL


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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
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this sounds more like central command socialism to me...

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Skipper
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It's unfortunate, but I can't say I'll lose any sleep over this.

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Jayx1
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you arent a clubowner who stands to lose a lot of business and/or have spent thousands of these rooms.

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disko-kandi
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Registered: Nov 2002
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quote:
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you arent a clubowner who stands to lose a lot of business and/or have spent thousands of these rooms.


you're right about that.

but it's probably for the best ... (as i'm lighting one up..hehe!)


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Jayx1
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Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

in a perfect world no one would smoke and banning it wouldnt affect businesses. Sadly this isnt a perfect world. People who are on the ban bandwagon dont live in reality. They are idealists and idealism never works in the real world.

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disko-kandi
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quote:
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in a perfect world no one would smoke and banning it wouldnt affect businesses.


well ... if noone smoked then there would be nothing to ban!


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Jayx1
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you get what im saying smart ass.

LOL

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Crazy Serb
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quote:
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you arent a clubowner who stands to lose a lot of business and/or have spent thousands of these rooms.


you got that right...

but some of us are people who can't stand the cig smoke...


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itikia
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Business who have already spent money on smoking rooms should be compensated. However I do agree with the total ban on smoking...

itikia

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