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http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast...main/index.html

http://www.itv.com/news/623337.html

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what the hell is this crap?

you should be very careful, hater propagandist.

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Originally posted by Q5echo what the hell is this crap?

The unfortunate truth?

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well he didn't spill the beans to CBS when he was interviewed by them. is CBS hiding something? hope not, they got a lot more to lose than "ITV" or whatever the hell it it is.

From CBS news.
"In Baghdad, an Iraqi camera operator for Al-Jazeera television, Suhaib al-Baz, said he was mistreated during 74 days in U.S. custody after he was arrested last November for allegedly having prior information about an insurgent attack."

"'You journalists might be respected by others but not me,'" al-Baz quoted an American interrogator as telling him. "He pushed me on a flat seat, kept the bag over my face while my hands were bound. He stepped on my knees with his boots."

"Al-Baz said that when he asked for permission to pray, "he hit me many times on my shoulder, knocked me against the wall and put his fingers on top of my eyes while pressing me against the wall."

swiss and scottish news outlets have corroberated the CBS account too.

big fu**in deal.

He didn't "spill the beans" to cnn... he was testifying under oath to the Senate and House armed services committees.

What's your point anyways??

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Originally posted by Q5echo swiss and scottish news outlets have corroberated the CBS account too. big fu**in deal.

War attrocities are common, what is it about this one that you find so hard to believe? Is it because in this case the alleged perpetrators are American?

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Originally posted by Q5echo what the hell is this crap? you should be very careful, hater propagandist.

Whenever there's a thread that deals with something an American or Americans have done - you often seem to call the posters 'haters' or 'brain washed propagandists'. Am I the only one who's starting to notice a pattern of denial here? I may be off the mark here - but to me it looks like that you don't think it's true because there are Americans involved.

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Last edited by arctic on May-08-2004 at 15:28

I would be very weary of this jounalists reports. He seems to have forgotten about these events until just recently. I'm not saying its the case for sure, but what better way to get your face and name spread around the international media but by proclaiming another "attrocity" that took place in the Iraqi prison. If there were other people able to back his claim I would feel a little more secure. But much like we have discovered the British military pics to be doctored, nothing makes me truthfully believe that this individual is telling the truth.

unfortunately yeah war crimes have always existed .....i wouldn't say it's common that's too horrible but yeah people know it happens but it doesn't mean we have to accept it and just say ....what can we do ....

if what have been reported turn out to be the truth then serious measures gotta be taken so as to condemn these people .....and it doesn't mean that ....because we blame these people or yeah think that what these people said that we are believing all the propaganda ....
no one is perfect ....yeah US is involved here ....what some US soldiers have done is simply bad and deserved to be punished by the laws .....just admit it and please leave your patriotic pride for a bit .....just face the facts ....im not talking about this story in particular (the links and all in the thread) but rather about the whole situation

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Originally posted by NeoPhono But much like we have discovered the British military pics to be doctored, nothing makes me truthfully believe that this individual is telling the truth.

We have? As far as I know, it's still up in the air. The military police have had discussions with the soldier who made the allegations - and the Daily Mirror editor still seems to be standing by the photo's authenticity. I wasn't aware that they were able to make a conclusive judgment one way or the other.

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Originally posted by arctic We have? As far as I know, it's still up in the air. The military police have had discussions with the soldier who made the allegations - and the Daily Mirror editor still seems to be standing by the photo's authenticity. I wasn't aware that they were able to make a conclusive judgment one way or the other.

Unless there's an entire segment of the British amred forces wearing old, non-issue military uniforms and insignias, then yes, I'd say it's pretty much case-closed.