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"Hard Trance"

Whenever someone mentions Hard Trance, I always hear about S.H.O.K.K, Cosmic Gate, Marc Dawn, Alphazone, Kai Tracid, Flutlicht, etc.

I don't mind these artists, infact I enjoy them greatly, but they seem to be the "cheesier" side of Hard Trance, all hi-hats that are endless.

I've come to think "real" Hard Trance is the stuff Paul Maddox plays, really hard banging stuff, almost a cross breed of Hard House I guess.

I'd consider these Hard Trance :

Paul Maddox & Niki Max - Reach Out
Tomeat - State of Motion
Guyver - Trapped

Am I confusing Hard Trance tunes with Hard House tunes or does anyone else consider this the "real" Hard Trance?


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question: what is "Too Many Times" by Kai Tracid usually considered to be?


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quote:
Originally posted by aspergian
question: what is "Too Many Times" by Kai Tracid usually considered to be?


Trance. It might be a bit harder than what I usually connect with trance, but it's not hard trance!


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Re: "Hard Trance"

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
Whenever someone mentions Hard Trance, I always hear about S.H.O.K.K, Cosmic Gate, Marc Dawn, Alphazone, Kai Tracid, Flutlicht, etc.

I don't mind these artists, infact I enjoy them greatly, but they seem to be the "cheesier" side of Hard Trance, all hi-hats that are endless.

I've come to think "real" Hard Trance is the stuff Paul Maddox plays, really hard banging stuff, almost a cross breed of Hard House I guess.

I'd consider these Hard Trance :

Paul Maddox & Niki Max - Reach Out
Tomeat - State of Motion
Guyver - Trapped

Am I confusing Hard Trance tunes with Hard House tunes or does anyone else consider this the "real" Hard Trance?



comedy, you say the above are cheesy yet name cheeys hardhouse hybrid artists.

i find that a lot of hard trance can be considered cheesy because of the bare nature of the genre, but artists like shokk and m woods make their tunes a bit more vbaried and complex rather than a lot of other artist, for example the uk hard trance and their smaey rolly soft kick and wob bassline, to the german style with the "just-like-scot-project" sound.


flutlicht used to be hard trance, and used to be different, and quality. their productions i nthe last year before their end were far from hard trance.


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Re: "Hard Trance"

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
Whenever someone mentions Hard Trance, I always hear about S.H.O.K.K, Cosmic Gate, Marc Dawn, Alphazone, Kai Tracid, Flutlicht, etc.

I don't mind these artists, infact I enjoy them greatly, but they seem to be the "cheesier" side of Hard Trance, all hi-hats that are endless.

I've come to think "real" Hard Trance is the stuff Paul Maddox plays, really hard banging stuff, almost a cross breed of Hard House I guess.

I'd consider these Hard Trance :

Paul Maddox & Niki Max - Reach Out
Tomeat - State of Motion
Guyver - Trapped

Am I confusing Hard Trance tunes with Hard House tunes or does anyone else consider this the "real" Hard Trance?


the oficial name for those those tunes ur on about with hard trance and elements of hard house in is uk hard trance but at the end of the day its all still hard trance

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You are thinking of UK hard trance, which I think is the better variety.


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REAL hard trance is stuff like Lab 4 and J. Biomehanika, The only thing I dont like from it is that it is a little to drugy for me


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quote:
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You are thinking of UK hard trance, which I think is the better variety.




hard dance guys, hard dance


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quote:
Originally posted by ziddy
Trance. It might be a bit harder than what I usually connect with trance, but it's not hard trance!


Oookay, thanks


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uk hard trance is on the whole hardhouse with a bit of trance synthy action.

generally its fucking shit but there are quite a few decent tunes, the ones which are less like HH really and dont go for the steretypical synth styles and OTT cheesy melodies.


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quote:
Originally posted by Ste
uk hard trance is on the whole hardhouse with a bit of trance synthy action.


I'm thankful I'm not the only one who sees the similarities in that regard... but really, trance is arp house. Semi-jest. But seriously, it's all connected, somehow.


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