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NeoPhono
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: In Orbit
Kerry Gives the Bird

I honestly don't give a rat's ass, but I thought this was funny/sad as hell.

quote:
Kerry 'Flips Off' Vietnam Vet

Democratic senator - and certain presidential nominee - John F. Kerry gave the middle finger to a Vietnam veteran at the Vietnam Memorial Wall on Memorial Day morning, NewsMax.com has learned.

Ted Sampley, a former Green Beret who served two full tours in Vietnam, spotted Kerry and his Secret Service detail at about 9:00 a.m. Monday morning at the Wall. Sampley walked up to Kerry, extended his hand and said, "Senator, I am Ted Sampley, the head of Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry, and I am here to escort you away from the Wall because you do not belong here."

At that point a Secret Service officer told Sampley to back away from Kerry. Sampley moved about 6 feet away and opened his jacket to reveal a HANOI JOHN T-shirt.

Kerry then began talking to a group of schoolchildren. Sampley then showed the T-shirt to the children and said, "Kerry does not belong at the Wall because he betrayed the brave soldiers who fought in Vietnam."

Just then Kerry - in front of the school children, other visitors and Secret Service agents - brazenly 'flashed the bird' at Sampley and then yelled out to everyone, "Sampley is a felon!"

Kerry was referring to an incident 12 years ago when Sampley confronted Sen. John McCain's chief aide, Mark Salter, in a Senate stairwell after McCain repeatedly offended POW families at a Senate POW hearing. Sampley, whose father-in-law at that time was MIA in Laos, followed Salter into the stairwell and, when they emerged, Salter had a bloody lip and a broken nose.

Sampley's group, Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry, has garnered huge national attention and has been featured in the New York Times, the Washington Post and on MSNBC's "Scarborough Country." Tens of thousands of Vietnam vets have registered their opposition to Kerry through Sampley's group.

Clearly Sampley has gotten under Kerry's skin once again.

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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City
Re: Kerry Gives the Bird

quote:
Originally posted by NeoPhono
I honestly don't give a rat's ass, but I thought this was funny/sad as hell.


*sigh*

Do we have to rehash the bogusness of that Vietnam Veterans against John Kerry group again? You do realize that a number of Conservative groups find their motives and assertions questionable?

As for Kerry giving the bird, 2 things come to mind:

1. It came from Newsmax - I'm sorry, but one must always take Murdoch's news with a grain of salt.

2. If, in fact it is true, given the weak credibility of the Veterans group, the turd deserved it.


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NeoPhono
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Location: In Orbit
Re: Re: Kerry Gives the Bird

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
*sigh*

Do we have to rehash the bogusness of that Vietnam Veterans against John Kerry group again? You do realize that a number of Conservative groups find their motives and assertions questionable?

As for Kerry giving the bird, 2 things come to mind:

1. It came from Newsmax - I'm sorry, but one must always take Murdoch's news with a grain of salt.

2. If, in fact it is true, given the weak credibility of the Veterans group, the turd deserved it.


Calm down, bud. I was just posting this because, as I said, I thought it was sad and funny. I'm not trying to say anything about either person, or endorse the veterans group.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Old Post Jun-01-2004 19:19  United States
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Shakka
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Registered: Feb 2003
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Re: Re: Re: Kerry Gives the Bird

quote:
Originally posted by NeoPhono
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.


Oh come on. That depends on what the definition of is is.

I mean, sometimes a layup is just a layup.

I wish there were a picture though!

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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City
Re: Re: Re: Kerry Gives the Bird

quote:
Originally posted by NeoPhono
Calm down, bud. I was just posting this because, as I said, I thought it was sad and funny. I'm not trying to say anything about either person, or endorse the veterans group.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.


I'm calm. I'm calm.

***big breath, counts to 10 backwards, thinks happy thoughts, notices nice warm summer sun in window with lovely birds chirping, runs out and hugs a tree***

Ahh, much better, thanks!


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NeoPhono
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Kerry Gives the Bird

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Originally posted by Shakka
I wish there were a picture though!


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DaveSZ
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: ATX

Newsmax isn't a real news source, and we all know it.

That's why you didn't post the link.

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Shakka
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveSZ
Newsmax isn't a real news source, and we all know it.

That's why you didn't post the link.


Posted Link

Again

Yeah, posted on conservative websites doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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DaveSZ
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Registered: Jan 2003
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This would have been picked up by some real media outlets had it truly happened, and it indeed may have.

It's just that newsmax makes up half their stories.


quote:
Originally posted by Shakka




http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=montage


3 entries found for montage.
mon·tage ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mn-täzh, mô-)
n.

A single pictorial composition made by juxtaposing or superimposing many pictures or designs.
The art or process of making such a composition.

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Shakka
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Registered: Feb 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveSZ
This would have been picked up by some real media outlets had it truly happened, and it indeed may have.

It's just that newsmax makes up half their stories.




http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=montage


3 entries found for montage.
mon·tage ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mn-täzh, mô-)
n.

A single pictorial composition made by juxtaposing or superimposing many pictures or designs.
The art or process of making such a composition.



Well obviously that picture wouldn't be the one in question since the event purportedly occurred at the Vietnam Memorial in a crowd of kids, outdoors...

I merely posted the pic b/c it was in the Limbaugh link.

I don't know if it happened, frankly I don't care. I flip more people off driving home from work every day than most people flip off in a month, so it would be hypocritical of me to say something about him flipping off some guy that doesn't care for him. This is a stupid thread.


P.S. I love the dictionary defense. Gets 'em every time!

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imokruok
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Los Angeles, CA / Milwaukee, WI

Here's a fun picture from this weekend's Rolling Thunder rally in DC.


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Shakka
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Haha. Here's one of those motivational mockeries.




Maybe it's just me, but that is one canniving look in his eyes in that photo!

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