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Shakka
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Flame on, droogs!

Yeah, I'm posting a Coulter article. It's a good one, IMO. And the Al Gore analogy is brilliant! Brilliant I say!!!

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This is History calling – quick, get me Rewrite!
Ann Coulter


June 3, 2004


The invasion of Iraq has gone fabulously well, exceeding everyone's expectations – certainly exceeding the doomsday scenarios of liberals. The Bush-haters' pre-war predictions – hundreds of thousands dead, chemical attacks on our troops, retaliatory terrorist attacks in the United States, an invasion by Turkey, oil facilities in flames and apocalyptic environmental consequences – have proven to be about as accurate as Bill Clinton's "legally accurate" statements about Monica Lewinsky.

Inasmuch as they can't cite any actual failures in Iraq, liberals busy themselves by claiming the administration somehow "misled" them about the war.


As I understand it, there would be no lunatics shouting "Bush lied, kids died!" if Paul Wolfowitz had admitted before the war that Saddam "probably hadn't rebuilt his nuclear program" – the one that was unilaterally blown up by the Israelis in 1981, thank God. What Wolfowitz should have said is that "proof beyond a reasonable doubt is the way you think about law enforcement, and I think we're much closer to being in a state of war than being in a judicial proceeding."

Liberals would be all sugar and sweetness if only – instead of blathering about nukes, nukes, nukes – Wolfowitz had forthrightly conceded back in 2002 that "there's an awful lot we don't know, an awful lot that we may never know, and we've got to think differently about standards of proof here."

Also, I assume we wouldn't be hearing that the administration is frustrated by its failure to instantly create a Jeffersonian democracy in Iraq if Wolfowitz had said something like, "[W]ell, Japan isn't Jeffersonian democracy, either." If only Wolfowitz had lowered expectations by saying that "even if [Iraq] makes it only Romanian style, that's still such an advance over anywhere else in the Arab world."

Also, the media would have no grounds for complaint if Wolfowitz had said Iraqi democracy "is not the president's declared purpose of 'regime change' in Iraq, which is to get rid of a very bad man." If only he had mentioned that Saddam Hussein "has been known to have children tortured in front of their parents."

But guess what? That is exactly what Wolfowitz did say! All these quotes are from a Sept. 22, 2002, article in the New York Times magazine written by Bill Keller, now editor-in-chief at the seditious rag. The last paragraph about Saddam's torture of children are Keller's paraphrases of Wolfowitz; the rest are direct quotes from the wily neoconservative himself.

But you'd have to put liberals in Abu Ghraib to get them to tell the truth about what people were saying before the war – and then the problem would be that most liberals would enjoy those activities. (No torture has yet been devised that could get a liberal to mention the poor, beleaguered Kurds dancing in the streets because Saddam is gone.)

To refresh everyone's recollection, before the war began, the Democrats' argument was that Iraq was not an "imminent" threat to the United States. The Republicans' argument was: By the time the threat is imminent, Chicago will be gone. Bush's January 2003 State of the Union address specifically responded to the Democrats' demand that we wait for nuclear and biological threats to be "imminent" before we act. But now, liberals want to have their Nigerian yellow cake and eat it, too.

In January 2003 – or three months after Sen. Tom Daschle voted for the Iraq war resolution hoping to fool the voters of South Dakota this November – he was horrified that Bush seemed to be actually contemplating war with Iraq! According to Daschle, Bush should have waited for Iraq to grow into a problem of crisis proportions before deciding to do anything – citing the Cuban missile crisis as a model to be emulated. "If we have proof of nuclear and biological weapons," Daschle asked, "why doesn't [Bush] show that proof to the world as President Kennedy did 40 years ago when he sent Adlai Stevenson to show the world U.S. photographs of offensive missiles in Cuba?"

The answer is and was: Because by the time Saddam had nuclear weapons, we wouldn't be able to do anything. That's why it's known as the "Cuban missile crisis," not the "Cuban missile triumph."

Before the war, Democrats were carping about the Bush administration's inability to predict the future and tell us everything that would happen in Iraq after the war. On MSNBC in September 2002, for example, Robert Menendez, D-N.J., was complaining that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld "didn't have an answer for what happens in a post-Saddam Iraq." But now liberals are acting as if the Bush administration said they knew exactly what would happen after liberating a country from a 30-year barbaric dictatorship – and got it wrong.

The good news is: Liberals' anti-war hysteria seems to have run its course. I base this conclusion on Al Gore's lunatic anti-war speech last week. Gore always comes out swinging just as an issue is about to go south. He's the stereotypical white guy always clapping on the wrong beat. Gore switched from being a pro-defense Democrat to a lefty peacenik – just before the 9-11 attack. He grew a beard – just in time for an attack on the nation by fundamentalist Muslims. He endorsed Howard Dean – just as the orange-capped Deaniacs were punching themselves out. Gore even went out and got really fat – just before America officially gave up carbs. This guy is always leaping into the mosh pit at the precise moment the crowd parts. Mark my words: Now that good old Al has come lunging in, the anti-war movement is dead.



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Classic! Quality read!

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MisterOpus1
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Re: Flame on, droogs!

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Yeah, I'm posting a Coulter article. It's a good one, IMO. And the Al Gore analogy is brilliant! Brilliant I say!!!

Bombshell Conservative Strikes Again




I'm counting on you, Opus!


Damn YOU!!!

No time to post today. I'll be comin' for Ann tomorrow.

I really don't like you right now.


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When your foot's stuck in the tarbaby, then beat its face in. The US can apply as much pressure as it desires to solve the problem up to nuclear annihilation if necessary. Bottom line is they will solve the problem one way or the other.

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Ann Coulter = excellent comedy reading.


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Oh yeah, I forgot my reply for this. Well, let's have one extremist answer to the other extremist, shall we?

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"droogs" huh?! i take it your a clockwork orange fan


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Shakka
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"droogs" huh?! i take it your a clockwork orange fan


We have a winner!

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We have a winner!


what do i win?

clockwork orange is one of the best books ever!


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Shakka
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what do i win?

clockwork orange is one of the best books ever!


Recognition! I'm a big Kubrick fan myself.

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quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Recognition! I'm a big Kubrick fan myself.


Completely agree. Full Metal Jacket was sooo underrated, and was a much better production than Platoon.

Best Vietnam movie since Apocolypse Now, in my opinion.


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Completely agree. Full Metal Jacket was sooo underrated, and was a much better production than Platoon.

Best Vietnam movie since Apocolypse Now, in my opinion.


I think I'm one of few that enjoyed Eyes Wide Shut. Don't get me wrong, it was overhyped, but it was done in solid Kubrick fashion. Maybe I just like the gratuitous sex.


"Do you suck dicks, Private Pyle?"

It's pretty amazing to see where Vince D'Onofrio has come since then.

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