This may sound dumb, but really, I know we shouldn't be there in the first place and no we shouldn't try to implement a government that may not fit the region. However, I just don't get it why everytime something blows up or someone gets killed, you have a bunch of Iraqis jumping for joy. Is this what the majority of Iraqis think? If we were to leave Irak now, wouldn't that create a power vacuum and start a 100 years civil war? BTW thanks Bush for making this world a better place to live in.

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Originally posted by DjSway This may sound dumb, but really, I know we shouldn't be there in the first place and no we shouldn't try to implement a government that may not fit the region. However, I just don't get it why everytime something blows up or someone gets killed, you have a bunch of Iraqis jumping for joy. Is this what the majority of Iraqis think? If we were to leave Irak now, wouldn't that create a power vacuum and start a 100 years civil war? BTW thanks Bush for making this world a better place to live in.

perhaps you just said it by yourself?

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Originally posted by St_Andrew perhaps you just said it by yourself?

I"M A GENIUS!!!!

I dont think people worry about what will happen in the future, they just want the oppressors out of their country as soon as possible.

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No matter how we twist or turn it we don't belong in their against their wishes. I am disgusted to listen to those who think that it is okay to have your army in another nation's country when they don't want you there. The fact that the Iraqi interim government has said the Coalition is now needed for the time somehow doesn't seem to be registering with some. At the end of the day the filthy Islamic militants who engage in some of these bombings can get away with it because they are not held to any accountability whatsoever. As we have seen they do not have any limits as to what despicable acts they will engage in to kill even innocent Iraqis.The entire Iraq saga is filled with individuals and groups who can best be described as disgusting, savage, inhumane degenerates, figure out who's who.

Can someone put duct tape on George W. Shrub's mouth, today again he claimed that his administration never said Iraq organized 9/11 with Al Qaeda but that they simply had contacts, who believes this shit anymore, yeah just like they had mobile labs, nuclear technology blueprints, chemical weapons, etc. All of which have been found in Iraq, right I am an ardent supporter of removing the U.S. from Korea, Europe, Iraq, Japan. I think you see where I stand.

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Too bad the election isn't until November.
I'm against the US being in Iraq, maybe Afghanistan since that osama was hiding there. But Iraq? What's next EuroDisney?

If someone invaded and occupyed my country, because we didnt subsribe to the values of the occupier, I would give my life to fight against it.

Where do you draw the line between making the world a better place and doing more harm than good, America is not the judge and jury of this, and we should not support them.

Listen to the UN, thats why they are there.

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America is a great country, I just don't like how we try to play world cops. We should deal with our own problems first. Yes terorrism is international, but I think the Bush administration is approaching this problem the wrong way. Making more enemies than friends, that is not the way we're going to win this war!

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Originally posted by zag2me If someone invaded and occupyed my country, because we didnt subsribe to the values of the occupier, I would give my life to fight against it. Where do you draw the line between making the world a better place and doing more harm than good, America is not the judge and jury of this, and we should not support them. Listen to the UN, thats why they are there.

I used to be one of those idealists who believed in helping the poor Zimbabweans, Myanmar(Burmese), much of the Middle East and all the other countries with decripit governments but then came Iraq and I realized screw all of that, I became a realist and realized that humanity is too shitty to ever give two shits about each other, so I joined the club. Take care of America and leave other nations to run their countries the way they deem fit as far as I am concerned.

A classic example of my point is Darfur in the Sudan, why is the U.N. not in there when they know what is going on, heaven forbid America was to send troops, bloody imperialists. Thankfully we will never set foot on that part of Africa again with troops, ehehm Somalia anyone. Meanwhile the U.N. will twiddle their thumbs while Africans are slaughtered in their own country by Arab Militias, that is human reality today.

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan I used to be one of those idealists who believed in helping the poor Zimbabweans, Myanmar(Burmese), much of the Middle East and all the other countries with decripit governments but then came Iraq and I realized screw all of that, I became a realist and realized that humanity is too shitty to ever give two shits about each other, so I joined the club. Take care of America and leave other nations to run their countries the way they deem fit as far as I am concerned. A classic example of my point is Darfur in the Sudan, why is the U.N. not in there when they know what is going on, heaven forbid America was to send troops, bloody imperialists. Thankfully we will never set foot on that part of Africa again with troops, ehehm Somalia anyone. Meanwhile the U.N. will twiddle their thumbs while Africans are slaughtered in their own country by Arab Militias, that is human reality today.

well said!

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Originally posted by DjSway This may sound dumb, but really, I know we shouldn't be there in the first place and no we shouldn't try to implement a government that may not fit the region. However, I just don't get it why everytime something blows up or someone gets killed, you have a bunch of Iraqis jumping for joy. Is this what the majority of Iraqis think? If we were to leave Irak now, wouldn't that create a power vacuum and start a 100 years civil war? BTW thanks Bush for making this world a better place to live in.

Anything was better than status quo with Saddam for Iraq and for the rest of the world. Yeah, there are motherf*ckers jumping around every time they hit allied forces. Personally, I believe they ought to be gunned down, but that wouldn't serve a purpose in the grander plan of us pulling out down the road. And personally, I believe we should back up to the Kuwaiti line and run through the country one more time destroying all opposition if the fools actually want to take us on instead of laying down their arms and dressing up like women and noncombatants. Dreaming...


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Originally posted by smokeape I believe we should back up to the Kuwaiti line and run through the country one more time destroying all opposition if the fools actually want to take us on instead of laying down their arms and dressing up like women and noncombatants.

I think the US should back up to the Kuwaiti line and get the fuck out of Iraq for good.

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