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Originally posted by Ben_Diesel ....if you're in court and you don't believe in God, do they ask you to swear on the bible? Or do they even do that anymore? And if they do and you lie, is it bad?...because you don't believe in God, remember? Random side throughts to follow: God and whatever form most people believe it to be is so widespread that you can't get away from it. It's on our money and in the Pledge of Allegiance. Since church and state is supposed to be separate, why do Atheists have to deal with this? I mean...I'm cool with people who have faith. To each their own, right? But I don't force my views on them, so why are theirs forced on me?

cause the catholic church is more powerfull that u are

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Originally posted by Ben_Diesel ....if you're in court and you don't believe in God, do they ask you to swear on the bible? Or do they even do that anymore? And if they do and you lie, is it bad?...because you don't believe in God, remember? Random side throughts to follow: God and whatever form most people believe it to be is so widespread that you can't get away from it. It's on our money and in the Pledge of Allegiance. Since church and state is supposed to be separate, why do Atheists have to deal with this? I mean...I'm cool with people who have faith. To each their own, right? But I don't force my views on them, so why are theirs forced on me?

I hear ya man, I'm the same way, people can believe in whatever they want, but don't force it on me, put I look at it this way, if I was in court and they said "Do you swear to tell the truth, so help thee god" (or whatever it is), I would be like "sure", then lie out my ass about everything.

an fuk it, I need more beer.

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Originally posted by TweeK cause the catholic church is more powerfull that u are

then again . . the catholic church did not officially procalim the worl ws round until the late 1960's


how poweful can you be if you're that dumb?

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Originally posted by enferno the catholic church did not officially procalim the worl ws round until the late 1960's

so who gives a fuck

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Here in Finland you don't have to swear on the bible in court, if you are not a member of christian church, you just have to give your word that you're telling the truth ;9

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Originally posted by enferno then again . . the catholic church did not officially procalim the worl ws round until the late 1960's how poweful can you be if you're that dumb?

it's frightening, but by far not the only dumb entity in the world that has power over the way things are...

Well there really isn't any possible way not to force one's beliefs onto other people, if you make everyone romove all signs of religion from flags and money and stuff, people will think that athieism is being forced on them, and they would be right. There is no way to please everyone unfortunately. I dont really think that the word God written on someone forces anyone to beleive anything tho, just dont read/say it.

This is coming from an agnostic, so im kinda nutral in this argument, hehhee

if you wanna blame someone, blame Constantine the Great...after him, the world wasn't quite the same... and if you have no clue what i'm talking bout, please research before leaving some lame response... i'd do the same for all ya'll...

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well... I just testified the other day in court, and there was no bible, just raised my right hand and agreed to what the lawyer said. although she did end it with 'so help you God.

if you lie on the stand it's still illegal, so whether you get smitten or not doesn't matter.

meh.

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Originally posted by qwikk well... I just testified the other day in court, and there was no bible, just raised my right hand and agreed to what the lawyer said. although she did end it with 'so help you God. if you lie on the stand it's still illegal, so whether you get smitten or not doesn't matter. meh.

did you do jury duty? i've always wanted to get selected for a trial...that'd be awesome. of course...they don't choose lawyers because they know too much about stuff and can influence the jury...

actually, atheists can swear under "penalty of law."

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