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MisterOpus1
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The Big Fish is Finally Reeled In

Let's see if they can keep him in the boat.

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Enron's Lay indicted
Former Enron CEO indicted by grand jury in Houston, says he's "done nothing wrong."
July 7, 2004: 7:32 PM EDT

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Former Enron Chairman and CEO Kenneth Lay has been indicted by a grand jury in Houston, his spokeswoman confirmed Wednesday.

The indictment remains under seal and is expected to be unsealed Thursday. The Justice Department declined to comment.

"I have been advised that I have been indicted," Lay said through a spokeswoman. "I will surrender in the morning. I have done nothing wrong, and the indictment is not justified."

Enron filed for bankruptcy Dec. 2, 2001 after investigators found it had used partnerships to conceal more than $1 billion in debt and inflate profits. The company once ranked as the country's seventh-largest.

Several former Enron executives, including former Chief Financial Officer Andrew Fastow, have pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate with the government. Fastow was sentenced to 10 years in prison.

Former CEO Jeffrey Skilling pleaded not guilty this year to fraud, insider trading and lying about Enron's finances.

Lay, 62, guided Enron for years, shaping the once-obscure pipeline company into a world-leading energy trading concern.

The Houston-based company's collapse was the first of several high-profile scandals at some of the country's top corporations, among them WorldCom, Global Crossing, Adelphia Communications and Tyco International.

By indicting Lay, prosecutors have finally reached the highest, if not the final, rung at the fallen energy giant. While details of the charges are not yet publicly known, prosecutors are expected to focus at least part of their case on assurances Lay gave, in the months leading up to Enron's fall, to employees about the company's financial health at the same time that he was quietly unloading his own Enron stock.

In recent days, as rumors spread that an indictment was near, Lay and his defense lawyers have mounted a public campaign declaring his innocence in the hopes of warding off criminal charges. Lay and his advisers have argued that he knew nothing of the secret partnerships managed by Fastow and fully believed in the company's long-term viability when he urged employees to hold onto their Enron shares.

Kirby Behre, a former federal prosecutor who is now in private practice in Washington, D.C., said it comes as no surprise that Lay has been charged. "The government seems to have successfully worked its way up the food chain and enlisted the help of senior officers of the company who obviously were cooperating."

But the two-and-half-year lapse between Enron's bankruptcy and the indictment that's expected to be announced Thursday has caused some former federal prosecutors to question the strength of the government's case against Lay.

They said the scope of the indictment that could be announced as early as Thursday would be telling.


"I've been rather skeptical based on how long it has taken and the nature of the charges that have been brought to date [against Enron officials] whether they would ever get to Ken Lay," said Jacob Frenkel, who was once a federal prosecutor and enforcement lawyer at the Securities and Exchange Commission. Frenkel is now a defense lawyer in Washington, D.C.

Both Behre and Frenkel pointed to ex-CFO Fastow as the likely missing link who gave the government the inside information it needed to bring the indictment.

"I don't think Fastow would have gotten the plea offer he did unless he had something to deliver on Ken Lay," said Behre, now a partner in Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker.

Behre added, however, that he was surprised by the timing of the indictment in light of a U.S. Supreme Court ruling last week that prompted James Comey, the No. 2 official in the Justice Department, to tell prosecutors to be far more specific about charges spelled out in indictments generally.

Behre said he figured the high court ruling would have caused a delay as prosecutors re-worked the indictment to conform with the new mandate. That said, Behre noted that prosecutors can always bring a superseding indictment against Lay later.

Lay's indictment follows the filing of criminal charges against other former high-flying executives, including Bernard Ebbers of WorldCom, Richard Scrushy of HealthSouth and Enron's own ex-CEO Skilling.

To date the federal government has launched 30 separate prosecutions related to Enron's implosion, including a criminal case that brought down auditor Arthur Andersen two years ago and criminal probes of about 20 former Enron employees. Of those, 11 have resulted in convictions or guilty pleas.


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-- From CNN/Money's Krysten Crawford and CNN's Kelli Arena

http://money.cnn.com/2004/07/07/new...dex.htm?cnn=yes


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Shakka
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it amazes me that it's taken this long for him to get indicted. Shit, Martha Stewart has already gone to trial and lost, and then had more developments. Fathead Kozlowski and the thugs have been exposed and are on trial. Hell, even Jeffrey Skilling and his wife have been in and out of trial for months. This should be interesting.

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imokruok
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quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
it amazes me that it's taken this long for him to get indicted. Shit, Martha Stewart has already gone to trial and lost, and then had more developments. Fathead Kozlowski and the thugs have been exposed and are on trial. Hell, even Jeffrey Skilling and his wife have been in and out of trial for months. This should be interesting.


The standard federal case in New York can take over two years, and that's without any appeals. There was no way they were going to get the guy at the top until they tried the guys below him - that's how you develop an airtight record. You 'beat up the body until the head falls off.'

As things go, it appears to have been done "by the book" by the prosecutors, and hopefully we will see a good end result.


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quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
it amazes me that it's taken this long for him to get indicted. Shit, Martha Stewart has already gone to trial and lost, and then had more developments. Fathead Kozlowski and the thugs have been exposed and are on trial. Hell, even Jeffrey Skilling and his wife have been in and out of trial for months. This should be interesting.


Part of the reason why it took so long is because prosecutors needed the time to take down those directly related to the scandal such as Fastow and Skilling (and secure their cooperation) in order to make the case for Lay's direct knowledge and responsibility for the scandal. Unlike the Martha Stewart or Kozlowski case where it came down to a simple phone call or a simple party, the Enron executives built a complex accounting web designed to hinder the prosecution's efforts to directly link them to the scandal. If prosecutors had indicted Lay years ago, they likely didn't even KNOW enough about everything to understand his complicity in the entire affair much less convince a jury that he was guilty. As such, prosecutors started with those they knew they could convict, the junior officers, secured their cooperation to identify how the big guys were involved (fastow's plea bargain with prosecutors to have his wife out of jail when he went to jail for the kids or something), and now they finally have enough information and evidence (hopefully) to indict the top and make it stick.


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Part of the reason why it took so long is because prosecutors needed the time to take down those directly related to the scandal such as Fastow and Skilling (and secure their cooperation) in order to make the case for Lay's direct knowledge and responsibility for the scandal. Unlike the Martha Stewart or Kozlowski case where it came down to a simple phone call or a simple party, the Enron executives built a complex accounting web designed to hinder the prosecution's efforts to directly link them to the scandal. If prosecutors had indicted Lay years ago, they likely didn't even KNOW enough about everything to understand his complicity in the entire affair much less convince a jury that he was guilty. As such, prosecutors started with those they knew they could convict, the junior officers, secured their cooperation to identify how the big guys were involved (fastow's plea bargain with prosecutors to have his wife out of jail when he went to jail for the kids or something), and now they finally have enough information and evidence (hopefully) to indict the top and make it stick.


You know you are next on the list Mr Cheney



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Q5echo
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You know you are next on the list Mr Cheney



Pringles are better.

MrS


i'm no lawer, but i've heard this case (enron) is one of the most complex and conviluted fraud cases the feds have seen in recent memory.

Cheney litigation is a propagandist pipe dream. hold your breath, i dare ya.

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Don't give Michael Moore another idea for a film! Please!

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Don't give Michael Moore another idea for a film! Please!


Nah michael wont do that


He is too busy eating the 1000 cheeseburgers he bought with the money he made off american tools

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Aamerican fools> Michael Moore's main concern is if a toilet can handle it in one flush alone!

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MisterOpus1
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Kenny Boy? Kenny Boy who? Never heard of him. Welp, so long folks, gotta run (like hell)!





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US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) walks away from a briefing with the media, refusing to answer questions after he was asked about Enron and the reported indictment of former CEO Kenneth Lay, who was a close adviser and fund-raiser for Bush and his father, earning him the presidential nickname of 'Kenny Boy.'(AFP/Paul J. Richards)


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...jg418y7h_photo1


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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0708042lay1.html


Oh, THAT Kenny Boy! Geez, why didn't you clarify the question? Wait, what was the question again?

Where's Dick? Umm, don't know. Last I heard he was shredding, uhh I mean placing some energy task force documents in their rightful place. Give him a call if you want.

Kay, gotta git outa har (don't cha luuv my Texas/New England twang?)


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MrSquirrel
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quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
i'm no lawer, but i've heard this case (enron) is one of the most complex and conviluted fraud cases the feds have seen in recent memory.

Cheney litigation is a propagandist pipe dream. hold your breath, i dare ya.


The word I think you mean to use is "lawyer" and maybe even "convoluted".



The comment I made was, in fact, a joke aimed at occrider. A joke which most of the regulars to this portion of the forum would get.


/me goes back on hiatus

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