University rejects student and his unilingual guide dog FREDERICTON -- The University of New Brunswick could be facing a human rights complaint after it told a blind student from Quebec that his guide dog would have to learn English.

Yvon Tessier was kicked out of UNB's English Immersion program because he only gives commands to his guide dog in French.

He was asked to sign a declaration that he would only speak to his dog in English.

Tessier says that would only confuse the dog, and university officials would not accommodate him.

He's now considering a complaint with the Human Rights Commission.

UNB spokeswoman Susan Mesheau says Tessier was turned away because of a lack of advance notice, but the school can accommodate him for a future five-week program.

Mesheau says a lot of preparation is needed to accommodate students with special needs, mainly for their safety.

She says having the dog learn a few English commands is also a safety issue.

www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgaz...6e-2de7b4ecf2a9

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Everything in turn. What about the English speakers in Quebec who have to deal with the Quebecois' unilingual nonsense?

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Originally posted by imokruok Everything in turn. What about the English speakers in Quebec who have to deal with the Quebecois' unilingual nonsense?

huh?? i posted this because its stupid and funny... you replied with a stupid remark but where's the funnay in your post?

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Originally posted by malek huh?? i posted this because its stupid and funny... you replied with a stupid remark but where's the funnay in your post?

I think he makes a good point, we see what a big deal the Quebecois make about French being spoken first in every capacity possible in Quebec. We know if this was a kid speaking English in Laval or McGill to his dog something might be said about that as well. With that said if this story is for real what the hell is the point if a dog understands English or French, who cares besides the owners who depend on them.

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan I think he makes a good point, we see what a big deal the Quebecois make about French being spoken first in every capacity possible in Quebec. We know if this was a kid speaking English in Laval or McGill to his dog something might be said about that as well. With that said if this story is for real what the hell is the point if a dog understands English or French, who cares besides the owners who depend on them.

I don't understand the reason either. But I'll pretend too. The reason, is that the people around the dog speak english and hence they can bark english orders to him. If for instance the blindman passes out, or needs some assistance while in an incapacitated state, the dog will not respond unless he speaks French.

Anyway, thats what I got. Lets see your valid reason out of this

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan I think he makes a good point, we see what a big deal the Quebecois make about French being spoken first in every capacity possible in Quebec. We know if this was a kid speaking English in Laval or McGill to his dog something might be said about that as well. With that said if this story is for real what the hell is the point if a dog understands English or French, who cares besides the owners who depend on them.

ok obviously, you guys know nothing about trained dogs for blind men. This is not a regular dog. (you know the kind of dog you're not supposed to pet and that cost about 15K).

Trained dogs understand something between 15 to 20 "sounds" and respond to them. They have been heavily trained during 2 years to be able to do that. If you introduce new sounds to him that mean the same thing, he will be confused and defeat his purpose of being able to help blind people.

oh and btw, that's in new brunswick, where its half english, half french. It wouldn't be that hard to find someone speaking french over there to tell the dog "sit".

this is a stupid story about a zealot at the university who is applying a rule blindly (and maybe on purpose). The rule implies that he must only talk english during the semester. Doesn't talking involve two persons ?? since when dogs talk and answer back?

oh and btw, McGill is an english university. Almost every university teacher in Quebec accept exams and projects written in english, so please don't talk without knowing.

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Originally posted by malek this is a stupid story about a zealot at the university who is applying a rule blindly (and maybe on purpose). The rule implies that he must only talk english during the semester. Doesn't talking involve two persons ?? since when dogs talk and answer back? oh and btw, McGill is an english university. Almost every university teacher in Quebec accept exams and projects written in english, so please don't talk without knowing.

They have no choice but to accept papers in English and French at the university level, I was referring to the dog story however not student bodies and interaction with professors. P.S. I went to school less than an hour away from Montreal and made frequent trips to McGill and Laval with my university so I don't believe I'm a clueless joke with no concept of Montreal's university system.

As far as the application of such a law it seems pretty stupid on the surface, but in Canada, especially in New Brunswick with dual languages being part of the society it doesn't surprise me considering all the language laws that Canada has, practically everything it appears has to be in Francaise and English.

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Originally posted by imokruok Everything in turn. What about the English speakers in Quebec who have to deal with the Quebecois' unilingual nonsense?

Well, I haven't heard any blind people in Quebec being forbiddent to give orders to their dogs in english. If that would be the case, it would be equally rediculous. It's fascinating how you managed to interpret the article as an assault by the pro-french groups and tried to actually justify this idiocity.

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i think this has been grossly blown out of preportion.
The school fuked up but the policy says in black and white that if anyone with a handicap intends to attend that school, they have to give them 5 weeks notice.

I cant and wont believe this story. If it is accurate then shame on the school.

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Originally posted by TrueToTheCrew i think this has been grossly blown out of preportion. The school fuked up but the policy says in black and white that if anyone with a handicap intends to attend that school, they have to give them 5 weeks notice. I cant and wont believe this story. If it is accurate then shame on the school.

there has been a fuck up from the student about that 5 weeks notice, you're right.

but that bureaucrat was asked again about letting in that student and he still refuses it.

the student was attending an english university in ottawa and never had any issues with his dog.

20 million canadians don't bother learning a word in french, and they ask a "french" dog to be bilingual

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