Just wondering, why do some tracks have such long and uninteresting endings? is it for djing purposes? the thought was prompted upon listening to Energy 52-Cafe Del Mar (Marco V Remix) which has a ending nearly 3 minutes long.
dunno. Maybe to make it easier to mix out of. Echoes also has a long ending.
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Jan-20-2004 00:15
Matt Jay
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Usually I'd rather a boring ending than a boring beginning
Jan-20-2004 00:23
itsTrueSonic
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Re: Re: Long endings in trance songs
quote:
Originally posted by Ghostface
dunno. Maybe to make it easier to mix out of. Echoes also has a long ending.
ditto there. and also a song needs a slow buildup in the beginning to blend with the previous song played ...
Jan-20-2004 00:46
razzi
seņor tranceaddict
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: new york
those long endings can really come in handy when mixing, but yeah sometimes they drag out waaaay too long.
one reason that they have them is also because trance tracks are layered. beat, hi hats, synths etc etc.. so as the song ends, these are taken out a few at a time, and it would only sound good if kept in phrase (usually every 32/64 beats).
but yeah they can get pretty annoying sometimes :P
The longer the song is, the more royalties the artist get! It's that simple!
Jan-20-2004 03:15
Tranc3
tranceaddict in training
Registered: May 2002
Location: Santa Cruz, CA, US
It's called the outro, and conversely, it's called the intro. It's what allows you to properly beatmatch your records without running out of sound. Sure the purely percussive parts at the beginning and the end may not be the most interesting parts of the composition, but from a DJ's perspective, the audience wasn't meant to hear those parts anyways.
Jan-20-2004 04:01
CrackedLcd
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: With Fungirls In Maryland
As a dj I like the long ending when mixing. It gives more freedom witht he transition. When listening to them as single tracks they seem like they have long ending.
As stated earlier. Yup, I agree I prefer a song to have a long outro for mixing purposes. But with that in mind, the outro still has to maintain that vision which was conveyed throughout the whole song, otherwise the record becomes what I like to call a tranceformer....Transforms from a record to a frisbee very quickly (prolly around 260 BPM) *LOL*
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Jan-20-2004 07:30
Mr.Mystery
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Location: Vantaa
quote:
Originally posted by extepan
The longer the song is, the more royalties the artist get! It's that simple!
The Marco V remix is a bit ridiculous, fortunately the 7 minute cut gets rid of it.
The J00F remix of Cafe del Mar is probably the worst record for overblown intro and outro. Outer Space by Scot Project also takes much too long to get going.
what about for songs that are the last song of a set? it's nice to have a long ending to a song that eventually "fades away." I particulary like moogwai - viola for that.
