Hi everyone.

Im looking to pick some peoples brains here for a specific bassline sound / programming.

If you've heard of these tunes / producers it will give you an idea of what im searching for:

agnelli & nelson - holding onto nothing - MAIN ONE
cosmicman / matti laamanen
green court remix of ligaya
pulsar remix of matt darey beautiful
flutlicht - the fall rather than ahmea

For those that dont know its a kind of rolling, dark, stuttery + energetic bassline.

It sounds like the volume is moving, so env on the filter??? or clever delay tricks?

Ive come sort of close by running a low vaz bass off beat, then adding a triplet delayed higher saw bass playing over the top. But ive never managed the 'wall of sound' fat wobbly saw'ness that im after.

ive tried to use the most descriptive words i can to get across what im after. But i think it might be a lost cause.

Thanks for any help!!!

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Um Dont Really Know What Your After But When I do rolling bass lines thers a few you can do

ok this first time ive done a picture like this

k is for kick

b is for bass

_ is a break

ok heres number 1

k_bbk_bbk_bbk_bb Thats Yakooza Bass.

Number 2 The First Bass note is 1/4 the length of the second bass note

k_bBk_bBk_bBk_bass this is just a standerd sorta hard bass line.

Experiment With this to get what you want.

hope that helps you i dont know if u allready know all that but i just hate to see someone's post go unreplyed.

Thanks Dj Dems, actually i did know about bassline notes like that, but thanks for suggesting. I think i need to get the right blend of notation, sound and fx to get the feel im looking for, but these clips might help someone get a few ideas, hopefully.

Ok, here are a few clips of similar styles. They are around 100 -200kb each

http://www.fuktstereo.com/bass/agnelli-nelson.mp3
http://www.fuktstereo.com/bass/beau...emix-pulser.mp3
http://www.fuktstereo.com/bass/ligaya-green-court.mp3
http://www.fuktstereo.com/bass/Merlydee-paradise.mp3
http://www.fuktstereo.com/bass/thir...anethunters.mp3

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Ok... After listening closely to each one of the samples, I can see that the basslines are actually composed of 2 bass synths or more for each one of them.... Usually, you have the deep bass play only a couple notes in a bar while the higher bass plays the "filler" that drives the bass... Best way to hear this is from the 2nd last sample... At first, both bases are played, then the deeper bass is cut out and you can clearly hear how the treble is done...

As for the bass sounds, most of them seem to be from square waveforms and they don't seem to have a filter envelope (i may be wrong but just what i think it sounds like)

hope that helps

sample1
sample2

^^^ this is probably not what you want to achieve but I layered 2 samples for the bass, used a bit of delay and did some careful arrangement to the bass notes. It doesn't sound too good b/c it was recorded straight out of Reason with no compression or processing to the bass.

Like some of them already said, it's a matter of cutting up the notes and layering a few bass samples. Don't forget that COMPRESSION will definitely help you to get a clearer defined, punchier bass sound. If you don't use compression your track will most likely sound horrible and muddy when played in a good system. Compression on bass and kicks is VERY VERY important.

Here's something very similar to the bass in Agnelli & Nelson - Nothing.

As other people have mentioned, there are two different layers of bass going on here.


http://flamevault.com/~celerity/an_delay.mp3
This is the filtered out delay bass. It starts at around 4000hz and moves down to around 750hz. The pattern is a simple FFFxFFFxFFFxFFFx, where F is the note and x is a stop, with a 2 tick delay on the right channel and a 3 tick delay on the left channel.


http://flamevault.com/~celerity/an_sub.mp3
Next we have the sub-bass, this is incredibly simple. They filter it in as well, but I was too lazy to do that.


http://flamevault.com/~celerity/an_nothingbass.mp3
Together, with a kick, this is how it sounds.



Hope that helps.

^ hey what synth did you use for that fill bass..sounds really nice

Synth1 free VSTi, slight modifications to the Synth Bass1 preset.

i would like to recreate this bassline http://www.solarproject.ch/linked/bassline.mp3

can someone help me? it's from "Dj Tatana - Soul Cry (The Mystery Remix)"

Heh guys, try to recreate one of Push basslines...

quote:

Originally posted by thecYrus i would like to recreate this bassline http://www.solarproject.ch/linked/bassline.mp3 can someone help me? it's from "Dj Tatana - Soul Cry (The Mystery Remix)"

I did something... Maybe its close to the bassline you put here... but it's not 100% the same because its not easy to understand the structure of the bassline from the sample you gave.... if you can find another part from the track with the bassline only, it will be easier...

Anyway,
this is my sample

included 3 basslines, one of them is the main one...

i've some other samples from the track.. perhaps you can hear the structure better here.

http://www.solarproject.ch/linked/bassline2.mp3
http://www.solarproject.ch/linked/bassline3.mp3