i finished a mix on a new mixer and i had my shit up 2 much....it sounds bad.......i was wondering if someone might wanna try cleaning it up for me....its a nice mix and i wanna try to salvage it...or if anyone has any input......
If it was up too loud, chances are there's tons of clipping, which to my knowledge is irreversible.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, which is sometimes more than likely.
Sep-13-2004 01:34
DannyO
The Vinyl Hunter
Registered: May 2003
Location: Calgary.
quote:
Originally posted by brian
If it was up too loud, chances are there's tons of clipping, which to my knowledge is irreversible.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, which is sometimes more than likely.
I think your right, clipping is basically when its so loud that it loses information, and because of that, it IS irrelersible, you can't bring back info that ain't there.
Sep-13-2004 01:42
SgtFoo
Ableton & ProTools addict
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vaughan, Canada
clipping is when a waveform has so much amplitude energy that it goes beyond the recordable limit of amplitude, resulting in a clipped signal. Basically it's like trying to make a sine wave so loud that it become a square wave.
And yes, clipping is irreversible, but there's ways of hiding it. Alot of ppl inthe DJ world don't seem to be able to tell. All every1 cares about is making it louder.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Culver City United States
clipping is irrevisible as everyone else said the best way would be to go back and rerecord the same set same tracks just with a lower gain on and i'd also suggest doing a test run at the beggining of your mix just to prevent this happening in the future.
Sep-13-2004 04:14
djtrinity
....i have nothing to say
Registered: May 2002
Location: NYC
i was running my signal heavier through an eq than i normally do.....the main level i recorded to DAT was ok ...i'm not sure if there is to much eq now with the increased gain or if if it was clipping before it reached the DAT.....thanx Sgt i returned your PM!!
you would figure after 60 or so mixes one would not say lets see what it sounds like this way this time
the best thing to remember about engineering sound is this:
you can't polish a shit.
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Sep-13-2004 14:59
djxtension
That's Not My Name
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Oldenzaal, Netherlands
quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
the best thing to remember about engineering sound is this:
you can't polish a shit.
And that is as true as 2+2=4.
Sep-13-2004 17:11
raoel
just addicted
Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Hapert near by Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Some mixers have only one outgoing channel, normally called "master" volume.
Make sure that that signal has the peaks about 0dB. A lot of DJ's spin with the leds far in "red" (+ x dB), that means: less sound quality. Stay about 0dB
Other mixers have multiple outgoing channels. Sometimes all the channels have the same volume. Again: make sure you stay about 0dB.
Sometimes a mixer had multiple master channels. A master and a recording channel. The master signal is "after" the master volume fader. The recording signal is before that fader, so it has the volume of the channel fader which you should control with the gain knob. If you've a descent mixer you will probably have metering for each channel separately. Set the volume at 0dB before you mix it in.
When connect a recording device you probably can adjust the recording volume of it. Again, make sure it is not clipping.
This way you should always have the right volume without distortion.
I tend to record 6 to 10 db down from redline... leaving that much headroom.
it's real easy to bring the level up, but impossible to salvage the wave peaks after clipping.
a good A/D converter wont loose much dynamic range running a bit below peak... not enough to care about.
plus, i find when I spin there are alot of peaks, IE when I want to gyrate the subwoofers to all hell or blare some vocals insanely loud... gotta have headroom to capture this!
