I have no issue with Microsoft. In a capitalist marketplace you should be allowed to charge whatever you want for a product if alternatives exist (i.e. Apple and Linux)

However, they obviously can spend $100 in development costs on their OS compared to every dollar Apple spends right?

Now imagine you've never seen Apple OS running or Windows Xp, and I showed you both... we surfed the web, watched a dvd, did some e-mail, played a game etc. There would be no way for you to know which one was made by the mega billion dollar company. Isn't that unbelievable?

So at the end of the presentation if you had to choose one over the other, then you'd choose the XP. Ya know why? Cause its mouse is better. The Right mouse button and the scroll wheel make XP easier to use.

My questions then are these...

1) Why can't Microsoft make a product that actually shows evidence of its difference in resources compared to apple?
2) Why can't apple be designed with the assumption that every user has a 2 button mouse with a scroll wheel. If I was Apple i'd make their next OS only work if you have a 2 button mouse installed. Staying with a one button design implies the people using their product are some sort of retards whose brains can't handle that level of complexity is embarrasing.

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Maybe the 1 button mouse is the difference between the two OS' that you mentioned? Haha, pretty sad if it really was though
I dunno, you can run the Mac OS on a Windows PC to, can't you?

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Originally posted by Subey Why can't apple be designed with the assumption that every user has a 2 button mouse with a scroll wheel. If I was Apple i'd make their next OS only work if you have a 2 button mouse installed. Staying with a one button design implies the people using their product are some sort of retards whose brains can't handle that level of complexity is embarrasing.

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Don't even start to mention the One button mouse as that is the lamest n00biest comment anyone could ever make.
You clearly yourself have no clue about macs?

Just because macs ship with a one button mouse doesn't mean you can't hit a key to equal to a "right click" or buy a two button mouse.

It really gets to me that people make such lame generic statements. What have you been doing?
Listening to some lamer tell you that's macs suck because the documents written on a mac are incompatible with a pc
or that the machines are slower
or that they suck cause they come with a one button mouse.... give it up already.

It's a different world and you can't just compare Windows vs Mac it's like comparing apples ( no pun intended ) and oranges.



You're clearly too biased to even bring up such a question " which OS would you pick " etc etc


Btw I use both pc and mac ... and I have no problem with the mouse ( I am still using a standard one button mouse on the mac and there's nothing annoying about it ).

macs & pc's both have their uses in the world. for example, with music production there isn't a pc that would beat a mac g4.

but i do have issues with microsoft, even though they have the OS which is easiest to use etc etc. they consistantly push out competition by including more and more in the OS. they got told off for it when they started integrating windows mediaplayer, internet explorer and all that other bollocks, and they should have learnt their lesson before doing it again with sp2 (anti-virus + firewall).

it means that companies like symantec (makers of norton anti-virus) will sell less licenses to pc vendors because all the security needs will be included with the microsoft windows license which they already buy for an extortionate amount of money. if that isn't pushing out the competition to gain a monopoly on the market, i don't know what is.

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actually for n00bs, it makes sense to have a one button mouse.

Don't forget that most computer users are n00bs (90%), I think it make sense for Apple to use a default one button mouse.

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First i'd like to thank you for emerging from the Mac forest for the generic reply trying to defend a ludicrous position You have just demonstrated the single greatest problem with reality. People who refuse to adopt any of the other teams strategies for fear it will CORRUPT the purity of their side... "Those russians have electricity! we better not use it or else we will become communist!"

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Originally posted by jdat Just because macs ship with a one button mouse doesn't mean you can't hit a key to equal to a "right click" or buy a two button mouse.

Your argument is meaningless. My Left hand can do stuff, and my right hand can do stuff. My right hand can do the following at the same time easily... click left, click right, move around and scroll a wheel.

Having my LEFT HAND simulate a right mouse click by pressing a button is RETARDED... you are using TWO HANDS to do the job of ONE. For you to sit there and defend using the use of TWO HANDS when MILLIONS have proven that one hand can perform the same task shows how deep in the Mac closet you are.

Therefore as I originally said. The next mac OS should be designed under the assumption all users are using a decent mouse. There's a point where backward compatiblity becomes too much of a burden. It's time to jump the next train (Prosbot mix)

[edit] I fixed a couple of awful spelling mistakes!

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Last edited by Subey on Oct-05-2004 at 00:43

well the real point is who the hell cares?

Discrediting an OS on the grounds that the mouse is only one button is very weak when you compare it to another OS and their law suits for blocking other peoples software, numerous bugs and lost productivity, killing IT departments around the world because of so many security patches that need applied etc .....


All things have their issues and their pros and cons...

both

linux all the way!!

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if only it was as simple as windows...

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Originally posted by born2trance both linux all the way!!

/agree (mice are overrated anyway)


Actually both are quite retarded; not so long ago I read an acticle about microsoft trying to patent the double-click (among other trivial stuff; here, it's in german though).

Finally, arguing that MacOs sucks because Apple-computers ship with a single button mouse is kinda retarded too. Most windows users I know never use the right button or the scroll-wheel; and any mac-user can easily upgrade their mouse if they need that... And the only reason I can think of not having your other hand on the keyboard while "working" is because your wanking.

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all mouses should at least have a scroll wheel, i don't understand why apple mouses don't if everything else about them is so user friendly

and forward and back buttons are extremely useful also, i don't understand why they don't have those either