Ron Paul also wants to abolish the United Nations, Department of Education, and Department of Homeland Security. As much as I may think he's right on a few issues, he's a kook.

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True that, I don't think America could survive without the chart.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Ron Paul also wants to abolish the United Nations, Department of Education, and Department of Homeland Security. As much as I may think he's right on a few issues, he's a kook.

He wants to reform several institutions. Not completely abolish them. The UN? How the hell is he going to abolish the UN? The Dep of Homeland Security will be the future gestapo of the US when these bankers establish the RFID chip in everyone. Not saying its imminent, just saying where our future is headed if we just vote in another pandering politician...

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Originally posted by Sunsnail True that, I don't think America could survive without the chart.

DHS coordinates between 20 former government administrative entities. Yes, it's a bureacracy. But it's far more efficient than the assortment of mini-bureacracies we had before. DHS now incorporates nearly 300,000 employees in its various forms. Do you simply abolish it or create a new bureacracy in its place? Or do you hand over homeland security efforts to the DoD? That kind of restructuring is insane.

And privatizing all education in this country? I'm sorry, but it's not feasible and it closes the doors to millions. If it weren't for financial aid, millions would not be able to attend college. And Ron Paul wants to make high school the same way.

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Originally posted by Krypton 5. Oppose trade deals and groups that threaten American sovereignty. (NAFTA, UN, GATT, NAU, WTO, CAFTA, ICC, etc.)

Also, Ron Paul is one of the largest supporters of free trade in the House of Representatives today.

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High school should be private. You want the state teaching your kids???

The state can SUBSIDIZE education, but never should the state be the one doing the educating. It's now wonder I was so disillusioned by my public education. It feels like an impersonal box, where you either conform or drop out. What a mess...

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He's much more reasonable than it may seem. He admits that there needs to be a long period of transition.

Here is an interview at John Hopkins

http://www.sais-jhu.edu/media/sept2...npaul091107.mp3

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Also, Ron Paul is one of the largest supporters of free trade in the House of Representatives today.

Free trade is good when it doesn't violate our national sovereignty...

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um...public education is 95% funded on the STATE level. All Paul wants to do is reduce/eliminate federal control over education. Give the power back to the states, and the people.

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Originally posted by Krypton High school should be private. You want the state teaching your kids???

As a graduate of a public high school, I have no problem with the state funding public education. Your mysterious "state" isn't doing the teaching - individual teachers are, and they have a great deal of flexibility within implemented curriculums to tailor their style and efforts to their individual students. I never once had a problem with state involvement in my education... well, until No Child Left Behind, which is just stupid. But the Department of Education? Expensive, but necessary.

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The state can SUBSIDIZE education, but never should the state be the one doing the educating.

First of all, since when has "the state" done the educating? They hire teachers just like any private school does - and many of the teachers I had were continually offered jobs at private schools and turned them down because they beleived in the principles of public education - universal access for all. Anything else widens the gap even further between educated and uneducated in this country. Ron Paul says he stands for the basic principles of this country, and yet he seems to have forgotten Equality of Opportunity.

Ron Paul doesn't want to subsidize education - he wants to give a flat $3000 tax credit (not vouchers, just a tax credit) for people to choose their own private school, regardless of the cost or financial situation of the family in question. After all, anything else would be "unfair treatment." So a family living at the poverty level will be given a tax credit of $3000, even though much more would be needed to actually send its children to tuition-based schools, and many don't qualify for paying $3000 in taxes in the first place!

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It's now wonder I was so disillusioned by my public education. It feels like an impersonal box, where you either conform or drop out. What a mess...

Ask anyone who went to private school - it's the same thing. It's ridiculous to argue that Catholic high school would feel somehow more personal just because it's funded by the church and not by the US government.

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Originally posted by Capitalizt um...public education is 95% funded on the STATE level. All Paul wants to do is reduce/eliminate federal control over education. Give the power back to the states, and the people.

Right, and have vastly different curriculums in Idaho and Delaware. If you treat each state like a market you will realize very quickly that each state's education system will develop very differently. And that prices and quality are going to vary enormously based on what state you live in. Poor states, like W. Va will probably have a mining curriculum, and rich states corporate finance. It doesn't make any sense - we have a level playing field for a reason - so that parents aren't lying when they tell their children they can be anything that they want to be.

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